>>> lynx:1 (Message lynx:1) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 19:41:17 -0700 To: "Paul Sundling" , flint.qsystems@rscs.net cc: trajen@auburn.net, gamma@imperium.net, blackjackals@geocities.com, knockmor@transport.com, robertmilot@videotron.ca, ktank@ili.net, dnyberg@acmenet.com, guns4all@erols.com, dfong@idt.net, tukayyid@bluegrass.net Replied: Mon, 16 Jun 97 08:58:37 -0700 Replied: Lynxcat Replied: trajen@auburn.net Replied: gamma@imperium.net Replied: blackjackals@geocities.com Replied: knockmor@transport.com Replied: robertmilot@videotron.ca Replied: ktank@ili.net Replied: dnyberg@acmenet.com Replied: guns4all@erols.com Replied: dfong@idt.net Replied: tukayyid@bluegrass.net Status: N X-Sender: lynxcat@pe.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=====================_866454077==_" X-Attachments: C:\MECH2\MEK\Drw01usr.mek; From: Lynxcat Subject: Illeagel Mech Designs (Proof Attached) --=====================_866454077==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Well Im really begining to wonder why cant CBL stand up and fight the HJ fairly . Ok people; attached is a very illeagel Dire Wolf that CBL used in a *war* yesterday against the HJ , it contains 3 LRM-20s , an ammount of missle that the rulls clearly forbid....unless of course Paul has some more shadow rulls. Im not exspecting the Council to act , in fact my officers have a taken a bet that we'll actually get for some make-do reason a fine for bringing it to the Council. All I can say is this; if the Council lets CBL get away with 3 LRM-20s , I thin k Ill refit HJ mechs to mount 8 LRM-15s....both sides can cheat Neke. Hey it would be fun. :) Lynx Tai-shu Kabuki-mono Yamaneko Jurai "Money , sex , remote controll , big brother is watching you...." --=====================_866454077==_ Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="Drw01usr.mek" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Drw01usr.mek" ZAAAAAQAAAAEAAAAJAAAAAcAAAAJAAAACQAAAAAAAAADAAAADBdEFnYWKSNEFgwXAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAABgABACEAAAAJAAAAFQAAANoW2hYBAAEAAQABAFwbWxsXJxgnFScpCgwAAQAyAAAADAAAAB8A AADaFtoW2haoFqgWqBaoFtoW2hbaFnIXchcMAAEAIQAAAAkAAAAVAAAA2hbaFgMAAwADAAMAEScS JxMnFCdaG1kbDAABACIAAAAAAAAAEQAAALUU5xQCAAIAAgACAGEJcRcZJ3EXKiMrIwwAAQAiAAAA AAAAABEAAAC2FOgUQR9CH0cfYwkWJ2IJLCMtIy4jLyMMAAEAKgAAAAAAAAAVAAAAfRWvFeEVExZD H0QfAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgABACoAAAAAAAAAFQAAAH4VsBXiFRQWRR9GHwAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYA AQABAAAA/////wIAAAD/////AwAAAP////9hCQAA/////ykKAAD/////YgkAAP////9jCQAA//// /xEnAAABAAAAEicAAAIAAAATJwAAAwAAABQnAAABAAAAFScAAAEAAAAWJwAAAgAAABcnAAACAAAA GCcAAAMAAAAZJwAAAwAAAFJlYXBlcjIgQ2xhc3MgMwAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAA --=====================_866454077==_-- >>> lynx:2 (Message lynx:2) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 13:58:02 +0000 To: Paul Sundling cc: DaToyz@aol.com, twayned@frugal.com, guns4all@erols.com, dfong@idt.net, tukayyid@bluegrass.net, lynxcat@pe.net, trajen@auburn.net Status: N Organization: WindUp Toyz, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Macintosh; I; PPC) Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <9706161613.AA15557@julia.math.ucla.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Khan Jackal Subject: Re: message from lotus Paul Sundling wrote: > > Postage paid by: [Image] > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > Not sure why you sent this to me. Jackal was handling this. > > Paul > ------- Forwarded Message > > Return-Path: "guns4all@erols.com"@erols.com > Received: from julia.math.ucla.edu by fern.math.ucla.edu > (Sendmail 4.1/1.13) id AA14299; Wed, 11 Jun 97 19:19:20 PDT > Status: N > Received: from smtp2.erols.com by julia.math.ucla.edu > (Sendmail 4.1/1.13) id AA20616; Wed, 11 Jun 97 19:19:17 PDT > Received: from default (anp-as5s30.erols.com [207.172.149.93]) > by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA01886 > for ; Wed, 11 Jun 1997 22:19:13 -0400 (EDT) > Message-Id: <199706120219.WAA01886@smtp2.erols.com> > Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 22:19:33 -0400 > From: RT GONDAN <"guns4all@erols.com"@erols.com> > Reply-To: "guns4all@erols.com"@erols.com > X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) > Mime-Version: 1.0 > To: sundling > Subject: [Fwd: Re: No more need for HJ-CBL Refight continuation] > Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------240A3B0235B0" > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > - --------------240A3B0235B0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Hail Paul, > > For the record the letter we recieved from I believe Jackal stated th at > the refight was to use the same number of pilots. CBL added some > recruits. Six of us showed but only 4 pilots were used as stated in > jackals letter. We asked if we could use 6 pilots with 20 mechs instead > of using 4 pilots with 20 mechs. We offered this just to speed up the > game. We were told that we could not. Just who said no I am not sure. > > Respectfully > > GUNNER > Yes Paul, I WAS handling this - However, I received e-mail from BOTH sides stating that the dispute was closed, and that HJ had agreed to pull out with wave 1 and take the 25% loss for retreating. So I left it at that. Also, GUNNER - I am the one who said U could ONLY use pilots from the original fight, that was agreed to in the ruling of the Jury, which is why I included it in my original e-mail to BOTH sides. Now I WILL say this to EVERYONE involved: if Abtakha IS proven to have used an illegal Mech design in this new fight, I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT A 100 TON Penalty is enough. The reason I started the RoE commission in the first place was to deal with just these kinds of infractions. Cheating will NOT be tolerated in this league. RoE has already established a precedence on this Paul - I sent you the e-mail of the VERY first RoE Commission meeting which covered just such an occurrence like this. GZ>Trajen, CBS>Carrion, NC>Silencer, and myself, who were the original RoE Commission declared, and I quote: "Cheating will NOT be tolerated in the Killing Zone. If a Pilot is PROVEN to have used an illegal mech design in a real battle, then the RoE Commission OFFICIALLY recommends that the person found to have cheated should be handed to their Group leader for IMMEDIATE punishment. Furthermore, it is the finding of the RoE that this pilot be reprimanded SEVERELY. We therefore establish this first ruling as follows: Should a pilot be proven to have used an illegal mech design in combat, they are to be handed to their group leader with a recommendation for expulsion from their group, and at the very least a suspension from organized combat for a period of no less and no more than two weeks time. If the person piloting the illegal mech was a deciding factor in the outcome of the battle, then that pilots group leader has two choices: refight the battle WITHOUT that original pilot present, or automatically forfeit the battle and any points/mechs that were contained therein. Furthermore, in order to ensure that cheating DOES NOT occur, the RoE recommends that if a pilot is NOT reprimanded by his Group leader in a manner which meets the conditions described herein, then upon the second offense by the same pilot, THEIR GROUP shall receive a fine of no less and no more than 100,000 points. If the pilot is EVER proven to be using an illegal mech design for a third time within TKZ, then not only the pilot but their ENTIRE GROUP shall be recommended for IMMEDIATE expulsion from the TKZ by the RoE commission. Proof shall be constitued by the presenting of the illegal mech design, and at least TWO corroborative witnessess. In other words, if you accuse someone of cheating - you BETTER have proof, aka the mech itself, AND the pilots it was used against. If any group makes an accusation of cheating thru the use of illegal mech designs to the RoE and the Zone Council, and they DO NOT have proof, the RoE Commission will IMMEDIATELY through the dispute out, drop all charges against said pilot and impose fines on any/all parties continuing to discuss the matter in a public forum." end quote. This was the first OFFICAL ruling/action ever made my the RoE Commission, and I know that for a fact as I was not only there, but wrote it at the request of NC>Silencer and CBS>Carrion. Trajen had departed from the meeting by the time the ruling had been finalized. The current situation is clear to me based upon that first official ruling, and I therefore can only recommend that the current RoE Commission look into the matter. I would furthermore suggest that the co-chairs of the Commission, Trajen and Knockmore, subpoena the group calling the infraction - HJ to produce the illegal mech design and at least TWO witnesses to verify that the infraction DID occur. I would also recommend that they subpoena CBL>Abtakha and asked him to explain to them just what the hell happened here. All parties involved on both sides of this dispute know me well enough by now to know that I AM FAIR when it comes to disputes. But I must speak my mind here and say this: I, for one, had hoped that the RoE ruling would NEVER have to be used in the course of gameplay within the league. It appears that my hopes have now turned to nightmares. I suggest that ALL PARTIES involved with this dispute now take their case to the RoE Commission DIRECTLY. If you do not know when and where the RoE meets, then all I can say is READ THE NEWS PAGE. This is my final say on the subject matter, and I will ask that all parties now take me OUT of the loop regarding these disputes, other than official mail received through the proper channels, i.e.- either from the Group Leaders ONLY, the RoE Commission directly, or Paul himself, I will no longer respond to disputes of this nature, as I am no longer the Vice-Chair of Zone 3, but simply a Zone Councilman. Regards to all - Michael E. Maine aka Khan Jackal 1st Khan, Clan Black Jackals XO MacWarrior 1st Assault Star Core Creator/Zone Councilman - tHe kILLINg zONe For a really grand time go to http://www.tkz.net, or you could just sit around in your underwear eating oreos. If you wanna kick butt and take names while capturing the universe and vanquishing all those unrighteous heathens that live in the Inner Sphere, the go to: http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Castle/2495...the home of the CBJ. >>> lynx:4 (Message lynx:4) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 20:05:42 +0000 To: Paul Sundling cc: Lynxcat , trajen@auburn.net, gamma@imperium.net, knockmor@transport.com, robertmilot@videotron.ca, ktank@ili.net, dnyberg@acmenet.com, guns4all@erols.com, dfong@idt.net, tukayyid@bluegrass.net Status: N Organization: WindUp Toyz, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Macintosh; I; PPC) Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <9706161712.AA18757@julia.math.ucla.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Khan Jackal Subject: ENOUGH! ENOUGH! Paul and I have BOTH spoken on this matter. From here on out it is to be resolved BY THE RoE COMMISSION! Anymore mail sent directly to the Council regarding it, other than by the RoE themselves - WILL RESULT IN FINES! Damn it. Grow up you guys. ALL OF YOU. This is EXACTLY why the RoE was formed in the first place, so that the Council themselves only has to deal with things of this nature as a last ditch effort. READ THE FRIGGING NEWS PAGE, and maybe, just maybe, then you will see that bringing this to the Council was NOT what should have been done in the first place. Either start using proper channels or SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES. I and Paul have BOTH been more than fair with BOTH groups involved here, and I for one, am NOT going to sit back and idly watch my mail box fill up with ANOTHER HJ/CBL dispute. This is childish, immature BS, and is neither fitting OR becoming from two GROUP LEADERS. You guys are BOTH damn good friends of mine, and I respect you a great deal, and I am sure that Paul does also. But PLEASE, for the love of god, the game, and the ladder itself - LEARN TO WORK TOGETHER. An irritated Zone Councilman named: Khan Jackal 1st Khan, Clan Black Jackals XO MacWarrior 1st Assault Star Core Creator/Zone Councilman - tHe kILLINg zONe For a really grand time go to http://www.tkz.net, or you could just sit around in your underwear eating oreos. If you wanna kick butt and take names while capturing the universe and vanquishing all those unrighteous heathens that live in the Inner Sphere, then go to: http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Castle/2495...the home of the CBJ. >>> lynx:5 (Message lynx:5) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 19:20:16 -0700 To: Khan Jackal , Paul Sundling cc: DaToyz@aol.com, twayned@frugal.com, guns4all@erols.com, dfong@idt.net, tukayyid@bluegrass.net, trajen@auburn.net Status: N X-Sender: lynxcat@pe.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Lynxcat Subject: Re: message from lotus Im not really replying to the orginaly letter , as I have no dispute with anything it , Iam however noteing this. >"Cheating will NOT be tolerated in the Killing Zone. If a Pilot is >PROVEN to have used an illegal mech design in a real battle, then the >RoE Commission OFFICIALLY recommends that the person found to have >cheated should be handed to their Group leader for IMMEDIATE punishment. >Furthermore, it is the finding of the RoE that this pilot be reprimanded >SEVERELY. We therefore establish this first ruling as follows: LYNXCAT BITCHING ALERT. The TKZ *has* tolerated cheating , thats all the CBLs have doen since we first took them on. However , not through outright tolence , but instead through leathergy....Ive watch most of the Council members , with the very refreshing exception of Jackel , either ignore my acusations , or act like they are on dope; "Hey man....so what? I mean....hey , cheating is ok man. Have fun man!" With the CBL's rampant abusive cheating one one side , and the Council's complete leathergy on the other , HJ is stuck in the middle....and as a freind told me once , thats a crappy place to be. -- Lynx Tai-shu Kabuki-mono Yamaneko Jurai "Money , sex , remote controll , big brother is watching you...." >>> lynx:6 (Message lynx:6) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 18:59:37 -0700 To: "Paul Sundling" cc: trajen@auburn.net, gamma@imperium.net, blackjackals@geocities.com, knockmor@transport.com, robertmilot@videotron.ca, ktank@ili.net, dnyberg@acmenet.com, guns4all@erols.com, dfong@idt.net, tukayyid@bluegrass.net Replied: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 19:35:25 -0700 Replied: Lynxcat Replied: ktank@ili.net Replied: dnyberg@acmenet.com Replied: guns4all@erols.com Replied: dfong@idt.net Replied: tukayyid@bluegrass.net Replied: trajen@auburn.net Replied: gamma@imperium.net Replied: blackjackals@geocities.com Replied: knockmor@transport.com Replied: robertmilot@videotron.ca Status: N X-Sender: lynxcat@pe.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Lynxcat Subject: Re: Re. : Illeagel Mech Designs (Proof Attached) Woohoo! Ill be getting $30 checks from Sho-sa Psyche Kagato and Chu-sa Wolf76 , I just *knew* Paul would find some way to get around the rulls and fine us. :) He always does. :) Well Paul , Im happy to say its out of your hands this time , and in the hands of the RoE Commission , your *poor* handleing of these situations has really angered the House of Jurai to know end , you havnt shown outright favortism , nothing that I scream and flame you with , but you *have* shown an increadble amount of leathergy in dealing with anti-CBL issues that the HJ has brought to the table , basicly proveing to me that all that stuff you said in the begining about fairness and fun is hogwash. So your right , Ill be takeing all of my disagreements to the RoE Commission since you seem to eager to let your freinds in the CBL cheat. Lynx At 08:58 AM 6/16/97 -0700, Paul Sundling wrote: >Well, as always your tone is decidedly hostile. There are two sides to >every story, but this will be investigated. In the past when there were >such allegations on kali, we used a standard 100ton penalty when a side >admitted to breaking the missile boat rule and it is more common a >misunderstanding of the rule. Couldn't you guys deal with this on your >own and make an agreement. Well here we go again. > >If I here one more accusation of the council being unfair from you, you >will be fined for each subsequent email you send my way with this! >Lynxcat, why do you taunt us like this? > > -=< Paul >=- > > > said to me: >------------------------- >> Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 19:41:17 -0700 >> From: Lynxcat >> Subject: Illeagel Mech Designs (Proof Attached) > >> >> >> --=====================_866454077==_ >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> Well Im really begining to wonder why cant CBL stand up and fight the HJ fai r > > ly. >> >> Ok people; attached is a very illeagel Dire Wolf that CBL used in a *war* >> yesterday >> against the HJ , it contains 3 LRM-20s , an ammount of missle that the rulls >> clearly >> forbid....unless of course Paul has some more shadow rulls. >> >> Im not exspecting the Council to act , in fact my officers have a taken a >> bet that >> we'll actually get for some make-do reason a fine for bringing it to the >> Council. >> >> All I can say is this; if the Council lets CBL get away with 3 LRM-20s , I t h > > ink >> Ill refit HJ mechs to mount 8 LRM-15s....both sides can cheat Neke. >> >> Hey it would be fun. :) >> >> Lynx >> Tai-shu Kabuki-mono Yamaneko Jurai >> "Money , sex , remote controll , big brother is watching you...." >> >> --=====================_866454077==_ >> Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="Drw01usr.mek" >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 >> Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Drw01usr.mek" >> >> ZAAAAAQAAAAEAAAAJAAAAAcAAAAJAAAACQAAAAAAAAADAAAADBdEFnYWKSNEFgwXAAAAAAAAAAAA >> AAAABgABACEAAAAJAAAAFQAAANoW2hYBAAEAAQABAFwbWxsXJxgnFScpCgwAAQAyAAAADAAAAB8A >> AADaFtoW2haoFqgWqBaoFtoW2hbaFnIXchcMAAEAIQAAAAkAAAAVAAAA2hbaFgMAAwADAAMAEScS >> JxMnFCdaG1kbDAABACIAAAAAAAAAEQAAALUU5xQCAAIAAgACAGEJcRcZJ3EXKiMrIwwAAQAiAAAA >> AAAAABEAAAC2FOgUQR9CH0cfYwkWJ2IJLCMtIy4jLyMMAAEAKgAAAAAAAAAVAAAAfRWvFeEVExZD >> H0QfAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgABACoAAAAAAAAAFQAAAH4VsBXiFRQWRR9GHwAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYA >> AQABAAAA/////wIAAAD/////AwAAAP////9hCQAA/////ykKAAD/////YgkAAP////9jCQAA//// >> /xEnAAABAAAAEicAAAIAAAATJwAAAwAAABQnAAABAAAAFScAAAEAAAAWJwAAAgAAABcnAAACAAAA >> GCcAAAMAAAAZJwAAAwAAAFJlYXBlcjIgQ2xhc3MgMwAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA >> AAAAAAAAAAAA >> --=====================_866454077==_-- >> > > >>> lynx:7 (Message lynx:7) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 19:43:00 -0700 To: Lynxcat cc: ktank@ili.net, dnyberg@acmenet.com, trajen@auburn.net, gamma@imperium.net, blackjackals@geocities.com, knockmor@transport.com, robertmilot@videotron.ca From: "Paul Sundling" Subject: Re. : Re. : Re. : Question I really don't take kindly to threats. I didn't say I'd find you for threatening me, but no more threat about hacking or tearing out phone lines or I will. said to me: ------------------------- > Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 19:10:58 -0700 > From: Lynxcat > Subject: Re: Re. : Re. : Question > You wouldnt want to Paul; Tai-shu Ryouko-chan Jurai is more insane than me > and tends towards very hostile actions....I speaking not only of hacking > but getting one's phone line's torn out of one's house. She makes me look > like a kind hearted little dude. I better not here that from you. I will warn you that I am a system admin, so I can track down things. > Then theres Tai-sa Nexx Nisshoko....well , do you want to hear from him? > Known for a quick temper and holding grudges he always get back at people > and has the soical politness of a Kagato family member. Nexx may have a temper, but he seems reasonable when shown the logic of the situation. > > And Tai-sho Bambi Jurai? You should be happy she doesnt speak mutch! > Shes quiet , always plotting things , she makes sure she understands the > situation fully before she says anything , and when she does its freigtning. > Oh sure she acts kinds and polite , but shes really schemeing to have you > get blown up or something. Thats fine, at least she is polite. Getting your opponent blown up is part of the game, making other players miserable is not. > > So....Paul , Im actually the nicest there is , and if you didnt constantly > piss me off Id be a lot nicer....maybe also if CBL didnt cheat so damn mutch > I wouldnt bring this stuff to the Council. The same goes for me. You have slowed down my timetable over a week just to deal with you. You blow everything out of proportion instead of settling things yourself. You have done damage to this league and you eclipse all other irritants of this league. > > Im so bored that I bring complaints to the Council , I know CBL cheats. Innocent until proven guilty. I'm just glad I don't have to be involved in the decision. Unless it goes your way, you'll scream about it. Paul > > -- > Lynx > Tai-shu Kabuki-mono Yamaneko Jurai > "Money , sex , remote controll , big brother is watching you...." > > At 09:28 AM 6/16/97 -0700, Paul Sundling wrote: > >Well you sent this right after lynx's message. Yes there are two sides to > >every story. This whole situation is getting rather irritating. How come > >over 60% of TKZ mail regarding dusputes comes from lynxcat. I'm talking the > >ENTIRE league. Without lynxcat on the leader list this would drop 60%! > > > >Groan! With this ever stop? I'd like to hear things from the other jurai > >leaders for a change! > > > > -=< Paul >=- > > > > > ><"guns4all@erols.com"@erols.com> said to me: > >------------------------- > >> Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 22:54:34 -0400 > >> From: RT GONDAN <"guns4all@erols.com"@erols.com> > >> Subject: Re: Re. : Question > > > >> > >> > >> Paul, > >> > >> As usual Lynxcat is distorting the truth!! > >> Prior to each isp failure we had already killed on of the opposition. > >> This then left us with a 2 to 1 advantage. Since one of us got dropped > >> by there isp it left the odds at 1 vs 1. Please tell me what advantage > >> we had? We finished one of those fights. The other we allowed Hellstar > >> to refight the other drop even though he was killed fair and square with > >> out any help from me. RDL also had I believe two isp failures. > >> > >> It is crystal clear to me Lynxcat will deceive, distort any and all > >> battle events just to get a head. He has no HONOR and no SHAME. The > >> worst thing of all is he has no respect from us! Respect is earned and > >> he by his own actions deserves none. > >> > >> Respectfully > >> > >> GUNNER > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Lynxcat wrote: > >> > > >> > You know if youd stop haveing to investage every sitution personly youd > >> > have a lot more free time....it will only get worse as more and more uni > ts > >> > have rull disputes. > >> > > >> > Hell , Im betting sometime this week this council will be getting mail > >> > about CBL's "ISP problems" today. Seem everytime one of them was about t > o > >> > die their ISP was mysterously go on the blink. Thee times....amazing , e > h? > >> > > >> > Do you have an unpublished rull to handel this Paul? > >> > > >> > I hope so , because if not.... > >> > > >> > Maybe in the future CBL ISP problems might rub off on us; if a mech that > pu > > > nts > >> > is still alive....well you never know what might on the internet these d > ays > > > do > >> > you? All kinds of problems! Why I bet if a CBL punted in the middle of t > he > > > game > >> > all the HJs and RDLs might just punt right along with him. You know how > uns > > > table > >> > Netmech is dont you? > >> > > >> > Accidents happen....you have to remember that. > >> > > >> > Lynx > >> > > >> > At 07:15 PM 6/14/97 -0700, Paul Sundling wrote: > >> > >It's not a forfeit, they played out that match and I don't blame them f > or > >> > >leaving considering that in my experience the natural tendancy is for a > n > >> > >arguement of not less than one hour and not more than four hours to > >> > >follow the use of that tactic. It is usually followed by a bunch of ma > il > >> > >regarding the incident until it finally settles down, although it seems > >> > >is seldom forgotten. > >> > > > >> > > -=< Paul >=- > >> > > > >> > > > >> > >> Did you ever decide one way or the other on Nova Roma's forfeit? I kn > ow > >> > >> you said that HJ some how "induced" it , though I fail to see how the > CB > > > Ls > >> > >> walking off the feild on their on recogniansese had anything to do wi > th > > > me. > >> > >> > >> > >> Belive me , I only *wish* I knew how to "induce" people to leave the > fei > > > ld. > >> > > > >> > >Keep using that tactic and you may get them to leave the league. Don't > >> > >play stupid with me lynx. I know you happen to be pretty smart. :) > >> > >I still remember when the OA used this against me and we got so pissed > at > > > each > >> > >other that we wouldn't even fight each other for about 2 weeks. > >> > > > >> > >> > >> > >> Also; that new email , it dont work. > >> > >> > >> > >> Lynx >>> lynx:8 (Message lynx:8) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 19:10:58 -0700 To: "Paul Sundling" , "guns4all@erols.com"@erols.com cc: trajen@auburn.net, gamma@imperium.net, blackjackals@geocities.com, knockmor@transport.com, robertmilot@videotron.ca, guns4all@erols.com, dfong@idt.net, tukayyid@bluegrass.net, ktank@ili.net, dnyberg@acmenet.com Replied: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 19:43:01 -0700 Replied: Lynxcat Replied: ktank@ili.net Replied: dnyberg@acmenet.com Replied: trajen@auburn.net Replied: gamma@imperium.net Replied: blackjackals@geocities.com Replied: knockmor@transport.com Replied: robertmilot@videotron.ca Status: N X-Sender: lynxcat@pe.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Lynxcat Subject: Re: Re. : Re. : Question You wouldnt want to Paul; Tai-shu Ryouko-chan Jurai is more insane than me and tends towards very hostile actions....I speaking not only of hacking but getting one's phone line's torn out of one's house. She makes me look like a kind hearted little dude. Then theres Tai-sa Nexx Nisshoko....well , do you want to hear from him? Known for a quick temper and holding grudges he always get back at people and has the soical politness of a Kagato family member. And Tai-sho Bambi Jurai? You should be happy she doesnt speak mutch! Shes quiet , always plotting things , she makes sure she understands the situation fully before she says anything , and when she does its freigtning. Oh sure she acts kinds and polite , but shes really schemeing to have you get blown up or something. So....Paul , Im actually the nicest there is , and if you didnt constantly piss me off Id be a lot nicer....maybe also if CBL didnt cheat so damn mutch I wouldnt bring this stuff to the Council. Im so bored that I bring complaints to the Council , I know CBL cheats. -- Lynx Tai-shu Kabuki-mono Yamaneko Jurai "Money , sex , remote controll , big brother is watching you...." At 09:28 AM 6/16/97 -0700, Paul Sundling wrote: >Well you sent this right after lynx's message. Yes there are two sides to >every story. This whole situation is getting rather irritating. How come >over 60% of TKZ mail regarding dusputes comes from lynxcat. I'm talking the >ENTIRE league. Without lynxcat on the leader list this would drop 60%! > >Groan! With this ever stop? I'd like to hear things from the other jurai >leaders for a change! > > -=< Paul >=- > > ><"guns4all@erols.com"@erols.com> said to me: >------------------------- >> Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 22:54:34 -0400 >> From: RT GONDAN <"guns4all@erols.com"@erols.com> >> Subject: Re: Re. : Question > >> >> >> Paul, >> >> As usual Lynxcat is distorting the truth!! >> Prior to each isp failure we had already killed on of the opposition. >> This then left us with a 2 to 1 advantage. Since one of us got dropped >> by there isp it left the odds at 1 vs 1. Please tell me what advantage >> we had? We finished one of those fights. The other we allowed Hellstar >> to refight the other drop even though he was killed fair and square with >> out any help from me. RDL also had I believe two isp failures. >> >> It is crystal clear to me Lynxcat will deceive, distort any and all >> battle events just to get a head. He has no HONOR and no SHAME. The >> worst thing of all is he has no respect from us! Respect is earned and >> he by his own actions deserves none. >> >> Respectfully >> >> GUNNER >> >> >> >> >> Lynxcat wrote: >> > >> > You know if youd stop haveing to investage every sitution personly youd >> > have a lot more free time....it will only get worse as more and more units >> > have rull disputes. >> > >> > Hell , Im betting sometime this week this council will be getting mail >> > about CBL's "ISP problems" today. Seem everytime one of them was about to >> > die their ISP was mysterously go on the blink. Thee times....amazing , eh? >> > >> > Do you have an unpublished rull to handel this Paul? >> > >> > I hope so , because if not.... >> > >> > Maybe in the future CBL ISP problems might rub off on us; if a mech that p u > > nts >> > is still alive....well you never know what might on the internet these day s > > do >> > you? All kinds of problems! Why I bet if a CBL punted in the middle of the > > game >> > all the HJs and RDLs might just punt right along with him. You know how un s > > table >> > Netmech is dont you? >> > >> > Accidents happen....you have to remember that. >> > >> > Lynx >> > >> > At 07:15 PM 6/14/97 -0700, Paul Sundling wrote: >> > >It's not a forfeit, they played out that match and I don't blame them for >> > >leaving considering that in my experience the natural tendancy is for an >> > >arguement of not less than one hour and not more than four hours to >> > >follow the use of that tactic. It is usually followed by a bunch of mail >> > >regarding the incident until it finally settles down, although it seems >> > >is seldom forgotten. >> > > >> > > -=< Paul >=- >> > > >> > > >> > >> Did you ever decide one way or the other on Nova Roma's forfeit? I know >> > >> you said that HJ some how "induced" it , though I fail to see how the C B > > Ls >> > >> walking off the feild on their on recogniansese had anything to do with > > me. >> > >> >> > >> Belive me , I only *wish* I knew how to "induce" people to leave the fe i > > ld. >> > > >> > >Keep using that tactic and you may get them to leave the league. Don't >> > >play stupid with me lynx. I know you happen to be pretty smart. :) >> > >I still remember when the OA used this against me and we got so pissed at > > each >> > >other that we wouldn't even fight each other for about 2 weeks. >> > > >> > >> >> > >> Also; that new email , it dont work. >> > >> >> > >> Lynx > > >>> lynx:9 (Message lynx:9) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 19:25:36 -0700 To: "Paul Sundling" cc: ktank@ili.net, dnyberg@acmenet.com, trajen@auburn.net, gamma@imperium. net, blackjackals@geocities.com, knockmor@transport.com, robertmilot@videotron.ca, guns4all@erols.com, dfong@idt.net, tukayyid@bluegrass.net Replied: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 19:45:14 -0700 Replied: Lynxcat Replied: ktank@ili.net Replied: dnyberg@acmenet.com Replied: guns4all@erols.com Replied: dfong@idt.net Replied: tukayyid@bluegrass.net Replied: trajen@auburn.net Replied: gamma@imperium.net Replied: blackjackals@geocities.com Replied: knockmor@transport.com Replied: robertmilot@videotron.ca Status: N X-Sender: lynxcat@pe.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Lynxcat Subject: Re: Re. : Illeagel Mech Designs (Proof Attached) My antagonistic tone is caused by your attitude Paul. See , victems (HJ) tend to get a bit hostile when the law (PAUL) threaten them with fines , ignore them , and shows complete disintrest in what ever illeagel actions the other side (CBL) is doing. Are we haveing fun yet? My House of Jurai doesnt think so. -- Lynx Tai-shu Kabuki-mono Yamaneko Jurai "Money , sex , remote controll , big brother is watching you...." At 10:04 AM 6/16/97 -0700, Paul Sundling wrote: >OK so then if Abtakha admits to the people handling the dispute that he used >the mech they can be fined. If he doesn't then HJ will have made a false >accusation. So the RoE can handle this if the council wants. I'd like to >make a distinction between breaking a rule and cheating. So lynxcat in either >case, please avoid the use of cheating. I reserve that word for using >impossible mechedit mechs. > >Also your antagonistic tone is uncalled for. Please, stop it. > > > -=< Paul >=- > > > said to me: >------------------------- >> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 04:33:04 -0700 >> From: Lynxcat >> Subject: Re: Illeagel Mech Designs (Proof Attached) > >> Sorry Nekekami , but your Abtakha admited to Hunter that he did indeed use >> it. :) >> >> Its out of Paul's hands my dear , and its now in the hands of the RoE >> commission , >> along with startling evadence , not only the mech but both of my pilots >> follow up. >> >> Lets see....youve lied in the past....your words mean less than dirt to me. >> >> In fact....you mean less than dirt to me. Share a group hug now? :) >> >> -- >> Lynx >> Tai-shu Kabuki-mono Yamaneko Jurai >> "Money , sex , remote controll , big brother is watching you...." >> >> At 07:07 AM 6/16/97 -0400, David Fong wrote: >> >Lynx, I did not expect you to sink to this low of making up things out of >> >thin air. I know you just lost over 37K worth of points in exchange for >> >less than 7K of CBL and it hurts, but this is just out right nonsense. >> > >> >Paul, none of CBL pilots used that mech. >> > >> >Nekekami >> > >> >At 07:41 PM 6/15/97 -0700, you wrote: >> >>Well Im really begining to wonder why cant CBL stand up and fight the HJ >> >fairly. >> >> >> >>Ok people; attached is a very illeagel Dire Wolf that CBL used in a *war* >> >>yesterday >> >>against the HJ , it contains 3 LRM-20s , an ammount of missle that the rul l > > s >> >>clearly >> >>forbid....unless of course Paul has some more shadow rulls. >> >> >> >>Im not exspecting the Council to act , in fact my officers have a taken a >> >>bet that >> >>we'll actually get for some make-do reason a fine for bringing it to the >> >>Council. >> >> >> >>All I can say is this; if the Council lets CBL get away with 3 LRM-20s , I >> >think >> >>Ill refit HJ mechs to mount 8 LRM-15s....both sides can cheat Neke. >> >> >> >>Hey it would be fun. :) >> >> >> >>Lynx >> >>Tai-shu Kabuki-mono Yamaneko Jurai >> >>"Money , sex , remote controll , big brother is watching you...." >> >> >> >>Attachment Converted: C:\IDT\Drw01usr.mek >> >> >> > >> > >> > > >>> lynx:10 (Message lynx:10) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 19:49:05 -0700 To: Lynxcat cc: trajen@auburn.net, gamma@imperium.net, blackjackals@geocities.com, knockmor@transport.com, robertmilot@videotron.ca, ktank@ili.net, dnyberg@acmenet.com, guns4all@erols.com, dfong@idt.net, tukayyid@bluegrass.net From: "Paul Sundling" Subject: Re. : lynxcat a bit more than vocal > Ohh I just love it when my name is in the header! I feal so loved! :) > > At 10:51 AM 6/16/97 -0700, Paul Sundling wrote: > >OK, > > > >now when I said 60% of mail regarding disputes came from lynxcat, that's > >actually LOW. I've gotten 94 messages from lynxcat since 6/3, so that's > >lot more than all other disputes for the ENTIRE league. I feel this is > >something of a problem and feel that if someone a bit more level headed > >handled things for house jurai that it would alleviate a lot of this mail. > >If anyone wants to verify that I have received 94 messages, just let me > >know and I will forward all of them to you. That's an average of over 7 > >messages a day, most of them complaints. The resulting slowdown in the > >league is over a week for work on the automation that I had to put off > >because anything involving lynxcat seems to escalate. > > Oh I belive you. My mother calls me a hurricane. I call you torture. You are incessant, like a cry-baby everytime you don't get your way. > > But Paul....maybe instead of getting mad at me for complaining , maybe you > would like to consider....why am I complainig? You seem to be under the belei > f > that I have nothing better to do. > > Have you ever considered that CBL cheating and illeagel actions are so bad > that they push me to these leavels of complaining? That is for others to decide, now leave me alone. > > >Jackal and I both saw a lot of potential with lynxcat and he was an importan > t > >part of the creation of this ladder. He is dependable and a very hard worke > r. > >While there a number of great qualities he has, the approach he has taken > >has been impolite, often insulting and accusatory. Things seem to > >escalate and I'm sure that lynxcat must paint a picture of the council and > >its dealings that is non-comlimentary and inconsistent with the perspective > >of the others involved. Also his accusations of lying, cheating, etc. seem > >to be endless and instead of working out any difficulties feels obligated > >to name-calling and filling our mailboxed up with his complaints. > > Maybe you should considering investgating my accusations. I told you that in the beginning that it was going to be investigated. > > >So I humbly ask House Jurai as a personal favor to have someone other than > >lynxcat handle the disputes from here on out and to use someone else as > >liason between both other groups and the zone council. Intimidation is > >a skill lynxcat posseses, but diplomacy is not. I'm still impressed > >that he was able to scare FUBAR bear into giving jurai 300K points and > >I still get a chuckle, but other than a newbie, don't expect a repeat. > >So why not use Bambi or Nexx for intergroup/council stuff. I'm sure your > >opponents will also be more likely to settle things if you are nice and > >polite. Save brutality for the battlefield. > > Im a nice person when Im not pissed Paul , and right now it takes every fiber > of controll in my being not to tell you off and do something extreamly shitty > to the CBL....yet I dont. > > Im mad Paul; after over 90 letters and 20 odd CBL disputes the closest thing > youve done to sideing with HJ on a matter is fine both HJ and CBL. You let th > em > continue being neanderthals....Im serrous Paul , CBL is the scum of TKZ , the > only way they would be less is if the NOC were resurected on the TKZ. Just shut up and let me program the results page you selfish person. There are others in this league besides you, even though you have demanded more than half my attention just on you. > > Im not screaming into the night here; I have a shitload of complaints. > > Paul....maybe Id shutup and quit complaining if you displined CBL. > > Lynx > >>> lynx:11 (Message lynx:11) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 19:35:50 -0700 To: "Paul Sundling" , ktank@ili.net, dnyberg@acmenet.com, trajen@auburn.net, gamma@imperium.net, blackjackals@geocities.com, knockmor@transport.com, robertmilot@videotron.ca Replied: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 19:49:06 -0700 Replied: Lynxcat Replied: trajen@auburn.net Replied: gamma@imperium.net Replied: blackjackals@geocities.com Replied: knockmor@transport.com Replied: robertmilot@videotron.ca Replied: ktank@ili.net Replied: dnyberg@acmenet.com Replied: guns4all@erols.com Replied: dfong@idt.net Replied: tukayyid@bluegrass.net Status: N X-Sender: lynxcat@pe.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Lynxcat Subject: Re: lynxcat a bit more than vocal Ohh I just love it when my name is in the header! I feal so loved! :) At 10:51 AM 6/16/97 -0700, Paul Sundling wrote: >OK, > >now when I said 60% of mail regarding disputes came from lynxcat, that's >actually LOW. I've gotten 94 messages from lynxcat since 6/3, so that's >lot more than all other disputes for the ENTIRE league. I feel this is >something of a problem and feel that if someone a bit more level headed >handled things for house jurai that it would alleviate a lot of this mail. >If anyone wants to verify that I have received 94 messages, just let me >know and I will forward all of them to you. That's an average of over 7 >messages a day, most of them complaints. The resulting slowdown in the >league is over a week for work on the automation that I had to put off >because anything involving lynxcat seems to escalate. Oh I belive you. My mother calls me a hurricane. But Paul....maybe instead of getting mad at me for complaining , maybe you would like to consider....why am I complainig? You seem to be under the beleif that I have nothing better to do. Have you ever considered that CBL cheating and illeagel actions are so bad that they push me to these leavels of complaining? >Jackal and I both saw a lot of potential with lynxcat and he was an important >part of the creation of this ladder. He is dependable and a very hard worker. >While there a number of great qualities he has, the approach he has taken >has been impolite, often insulting and accusatory. Things seem to >escalate and I'm sure that lynxcat must paint a picture of the council and >its dealings that is non-comlimentary and inconsistent with the perspective >of the others involved. Also his accusations of lying, cheating, etc. seem >to be endless and instead of working out any difficulties feels obligated >to name-calling and filling our mailboxed up with his complaints. Maybe you should considering investgating my accusations. >So I humbly ask House Jurai as a personal favor to have someone other than >lynxcat handle the disputes from here on out and to use someone else as >liason between both other groups and the zone council. Intimidation is >a skill lynxcat posseses, but diplomacy is not. I'm still impressed >that he was able to scare FUBAR bear into giving jurai 300K points and >I still get a chuckle, but other than a newbie, don't expect a repeat. >So why not use Bambi or Nexx for intergroup/council stuff. I'm sure your >opponents will also be more likely to settle things if you are nice and >polite. Save brutality for the battlefield. Im a nice person when Im not pissed Paul , and right now it takes every fiber of controll in my being not to tell you off and do something extreamly shitty to the CBL....yet I dont. Im mad Paul; after over 90 letters and 20 odd CBL disputes the closest thing youve done to sideing with HJ on a matter is fine both HJ and CBL. You let them continue being neanderthals....Im serrous Paul , CBL is the scum of TKZ , the only way they would be less is if the NOC were resurected on the TKZ. Im not screaming into the night here; I have a shitload of complaints. Paul....maybe Id shutup and quit complaining if you displined CBL. Lynx >>> lynx:12 (Message lynx:12) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 19:40:06 -0700 To: "Paul Sundling" cc: trajen@auburn.net, gamma@imperium.net, blackjackals@geocities.com, knockmor@transport.com, robertmilot@videotron.ca, ktank@ili.net, dnyberg@acmenet.com, guns4all@erols.com, dfong@idt.net, tukayyid@bluegrass.net Replied: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 19:51:08 -0700 Replied: Lynxcat Replied: trajen@auburn.net Replied: gamma@imperium.net Replied: blackjackals@geocities.com Replied: knockmor@transport.com Replied: robertmilot@videotron.ca Replied: ktank@ili.net Replied: dnyberg@acmenet.com Status: N X-Sender: lynxcat@pe.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Lynxcat Subject: Re: Re. : Illeagel Mech Designs (Proof Attached) >You will be treated fairly lynxcat Since when? >Lynxcat work with us instead of against us. It makes life easier on all of us. Do you have any idea how that sounds , or shall I just call you a Psi Cop so youll understand how THAT sounded. Lynx >>> lynx:13 (Message lynx:13) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 19:41:08 -0700 To: "Paul Sundling" , David Fong cc: trajen@auburn.net, gamma@imperium.net, blackjackals@geocities.com, knockmor@transport.com, robertmilot@videotron.ca, guns4all@erols.com, tukayyid@bluegrass.net, ktank@ili.net, dnyberg@acmenet.com Replied: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 19:52:28 -0700 Replied: Lynxcat Replied: ktank@ili.net Replied: dnyberg@acmenet.com Replied: trajen@auburn.net Replied: gamma@imperium.net Replied: blackjackals@geocities.com Replied: knockmor@transport.com Replied: robertmilot@videotron.ca Replied: guns4all@erols.com Replied: dfong@idt.net Replied: tukayyid@bluegrass.net Status: N X-Sender: lynxcat@pe.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Lynxcat Subject: Re: Re. : Illeagel Mech Designs (Proof Attached) Blame CBL Paul; if they didnt cheat , I wouldnt complain. Lynx At 09:52 AM 6/16/97 -0700, Paul Sundling wrote: >Great! Another full blown dispute. > > -=< Paul >=- > > > said to me: >------------------------- >> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 07:07:24 -0400 (EDT) >> From: David Fong >> Subject: Re: Illeagel Mech Designs (Proof Attached) > >> Lynx, I did not expect you to sink to this low of making up things out of >> thin air. I know you just lost over 37K worth of points in exchange for >> less than 7K of CBL and it hurts, but this is just out right nonsense. >> >> Paul, none of CBL pilots used that mech. >> >> Nekekami >> >> At 07:41 PM 6/15/97 -0700, you wrote: >> >Well Im really begining to wonder why cant CBL stand up and fight the HJ >> fairly. >> > >> >Ok people; attached is a very illeagel Dire Wolf that CBL used in a *war* >> >yesterday >> >against the HJ , it contains 3 LRM-20s , an ammount of missle that the rull s >> >clearly >> >forbid....unless of course Paul has some more shadow rulls. >> > >> >Im not exspecting the Council to act , in fact my officers have a taken a >> >bet that >> >we'll actually get for some make-do reason a fine for bringing it to the >> >Council. >> > >> >All I can say is this; if the Council lets CBL get away with 3 LRM-20s , I >> think >> >Ill refit HJ mechs to mount 8 LRM-15s....both sides can cheat Neke. >> > >> >Hey it would be fun. :) >> > >> >Lynx >> >Tai-shu Kabuki-mono Yamaneko Jurai >> >"Money , sex , remote controll , big brother is watching you...." >> > >> >Attachment Converted: C:\IDT\Drw01usr.mek >> > >> > > >>> lynx:14 (Message lynx:14) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 19:59:38 -0700 To: Lynxcat cc: ktank@ili.net, dnyberg@acmenet.com, trajen@auburn.net, gamma@imperium.net, blackjackals@geocities.com, knockmor@transport.com, robertmilot@videotron.ca From: "Paul Sundling" Subject: Re. : ENOUGH! I'm glad you stopped. The 2 fines for 5000 will stand since you HAD read the letter where you were warned not to continue to accuse the high council of unfairness. I personally don't want to be involved in any disputes involving you lynxcat, not good for my heart condition. I would request that you NEVER EVER send me any more mail about disputes. *I* don't care and I certainly have better things to do with my time. All I asked you to do was stop it and warned you against continuing to attack the fairness of the council. YOu attack us even when we're not making the decision. I've had it with you. DO NOT MAIL ME ANYMORE AT ALL LYNXCAT. You have shown continual disrespect and you are a prime example of what we DON'T want in this league. You have damaged this league, delayed it and been a larger irritant than all the rest of the league combined. FORGET MY EMAIL ADDRESS. I'M BEGGING YOU. -=< Paul >=- said to me: ------------------------- > Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 19:42:39 -0700 > From: Lynxcat > Subject: Re: ENOUGH! > Yes I can agree with this , although I just sent 7 letters to the Council > before I got to this letter , so I appologize wholheartly; I hadnt read > this yet. > > -- > Lynx > Tai-shu Kabuki-mono Yamaneko Jurai > "Money , sex , remote controll , big brother is watching you...." > > At 08:05 PM 6/16/97 +0000, Khan Jackal wrote: > >ENOUGH! > > > >Paul and I have BOTH spoken on this matter. From here on out it is to be > >resolved BY THE RoE COMMISSION! Anymore mail sent directly to the > >Council regarding it, other than by the RoE themselves - WILL RESULT IN > >FINES! > > > >Damn it. Grow up you guys. ALL OF YOU. This is EXACTLY why the RoE was > >formed in the first place, so that the Council themselves only has to > >deal with things of this nature as a last ditch effort. READ THE > >FRIGGING NEWS PAGE, and maybe, just maybe, then you will see that > >bringing this to the Council was NOT what should have been done in the > >first place. Either start using proper channels or SUFFER THE > >CONSEQUENCES. I and Paul have BOTH been more than fair with BOTH groups > >involved here, and I for one, am NOT going to sit back and idly watch my > >mail box fill up with ANOTHER HJ/CBL dispute. This is childish, immature > >BS, and is neither fitting OR becoming from two GROUP LEADERS. You guys > >are BOTH damn good friends of mine, and I respect you a great deal, and > >I am sure that Paul does also. But PLEASE, for the love of god, the > >game, and the ladder itself - LEARN TO WORK TOGETHER. > > > >An irritated Zone Councilman named: > >Khan Jackal > >1st Khan, Clan Black Jackals > >XO MacWarrior 1st Assault Star > >Core Creator/Zone Councilman - tHe kILLINg zONe > > > >For a really grand time go to http://www.tkz.net, > >or you could just sit around in your underwear eating oreos >less fattening>. > > > >If you wanna kick butt and take names while capturing the universe and > >vanquishing > >all those unrighteous heathens that live in the Inner Sphere, then go > >to: > >http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Castle/2495...the home of the CBJ. > >>> lynx:15 (Message lynx:15) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 19:42:39 -0700 To: Khan Jackal , Paul Sundling cc: trajen@auburn.net, gamma@imperium.net, knockmor@transport.com, robertmilot@videotron.ca, ktank@ili.net, dnyberg@acmenet.com, guns4all@erols.com, dfong@idt.net, tukayyid@bluegrass.net Replied: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 19:59:39 -0700 Replied: Lynxcat Replied: ktank@ili.net Replied: dnyberg@acmenet.com Replied: trajen@auburn.net Replied: gamma@imperium.net Replied: blackjackals@geocities.com Replied: knockmor@transport.com Replied: robertmilot@videotron.ca Status: N X-Sender: lynxcat@pe.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Lynxcat Subject: Re: ENOUGH! Yes I can agree with this , although I just sent 7 letters to the Council before I got to this letter , so I appologize wholheartly; I hadnt read this yet. -- Lynx Tai-shu Kabuki-mono Yamaneko Jurai "Money , sex , remote controll , big brother is watching you...." At 08:05 PM 6/16/97 +0000, Khan Jackal wrote: >ENOUGH! > >Paul and I have BOTH spoken on this matter. From here on out it is to be >resolved BY THE RoE COMMISSION! Anymore mail sent directly to the >Council regarding it, other than by the RoE themselves - WILL RESULT IN >FINES! > >Damn it. Grow up you guys. ALL OF YOU. This is EXACTLY why the RoE was >formed in the first place, so that the Council themselves only has to >deal with things of this nature as a last ditch effort. READ THE >FRIGGING NEWS PAGE, and maybe, just maybe, then you will see that >bringing this to the Council was NOT what should have been done in the >first place. Either start using proper channels or SUFFER THE >CONSEQUENCES. I and Paul have BOTH been more than fair with BOTH groups >involved here, and I for one, am NOT going to sit back and idly watch my >mail box fill up with ANOTHER HJ/CBL dispute. This is childish, immature >BS, and is neither fitting OR becoming from two GROUP LEADERS. You guys >are BOTH damn good friends of mine, and I respect you a great deal, and >I am sure that Paul does also. But PLEASE, for the love of god, the >game, and the ladder itself - LEARN TO WORK TOGETHER. > >An irritated Zone Councilman named: >Khan Jackal >1st Khan, Clan Black Jackals >XO MacWarrior 1st Assault Star >Core Creator/Zone Councilman - tHe kILLINg zONe > >For a really grand time go to http://www.tkz.net, >or you could just sit around in your underwear eating oreosless fattening>. > >If you wanna kick butt and take names while capturing the universe and >vanquishing >all those unrighteous heathens that live in the Inner Sphere, then go >to: >http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Castle/2495...the home of the CBJ. >>> lynx:16 (Message lynx:16) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 19:57:46 -0700 To: "Paul Sundling" cc: trajen@auburn.net, gamma@imperium.net, blackjackals@geocities.com, knockmor@transport.com, robertmilot@videotron.ca, ktank@ili.net, dnyberg@acmenet.com, guns4all@erols.com, dfong@idt.net, tukayyid@bluegrass.net Status: N X-Sender: lynxcat@pe.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Lynxcat Subject: Re: Re. : lynxcat a bit more than vocal >I call you torture. You are incessant, like a cry-baby everytime you don't >get your way. Iam most honored! Actually my way doesnt matter , fairness does. >That is for others to decide, now leave me alone. If you fine me that 10k for not reading Jacke's letter fast enough Ill never leave you alone. >I told you that in the beginning that it was going to be investigated. And why is that? >Just shut up and let me program the results page you selfish person. There >are others in this league besides you, even though you have demanded more >than half my attention just on you. Does this mean you dont love me? -- Lynx Tai-shu Kabuki-mono Yamaneko Jurai "Money , sex , remote controll , big brother is watching you...." >>> lynx:17 (Message lynx:17) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 19:59:54 -0700 To: "Paul Sundling" cc: trajen@auburn.net, gamma@imperium.net, blackjackals@geocities.com, knockmor@transport.com, robertmilot@videotron.ca, ktank@ili.net, dnyberg@acmenet.com Status: N X-Sender: lynxcat@pe.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Lynxcat Subject: Re: Re. : Re. : Illeagel Mech Designs (Proof Attached) Paul , you basicly told me; "Free will doesnt matter , work with us!" If mine was a veiled attack , what was yours? -- Lynx Tai-shu Kabuki-mono Yamaneko Jurai "Money , sex , remote controll , big brother is watching you...." At 07:51 PM 6/16/97 -0700, Paul Sundling wrote: >OK this is getting harder and harder to tell wether an email deserves a >fine. This one is a veiled attack, I'll let this one slide. > > -=< Paul >=- > > > said to me: >------------------------- >> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 19:40:06 -0700 >> From: Lynxcat >> Subject: Re: Re. : Illeagel Mech Designs (Proof Attached) > >> >You will be treated fairly lynxcat >> >> Since when? >> >> >Lynxcat work with us instead of against us. It makes life easier on all of >> us. >> >> Do you have any idea how that sounds , or shall I just call you a Psi Cop so >> youll understand how THAT sounded. >> >> Lynx >> > > >>> lynx:18 (Message lynx:18) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 19:46:17 -0700 To: "Paul Sundling" cc: ktank@ili.net, dnyberg@acmenet.com, guns4all@erols.com, dfong@idt.net, tukayyid@bluegrass.net, trajen@auburn.net, gamma@imperium.net, blackjackals@geocities.com, knockmor@transport.com, robertmilot@videotron.ca Replied: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 20:02:31 -0700 Replied: Lynxcat Replied: trajen@auburn.net Replied: gamma@imperium.net Replied: blackjackals@geocities.com Replied: knockmor@transport.com Replied: robertmilot@videotron.ca Replied: ktank@ili.net Replied: dnyberg@acmenet.com Status: N X-Sender: lynxcat@pe.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Lynxcat Subject: Re: Re. : Re. : Illeagel Mech Designs (Proof Attached) That not fair; I hadnt read the letter where Jackel asked it to stop. I said I APPOLOGIZE , there are sutch things REAL TIME READING , I hadnt read Jackel's letter yet. Lynx At 07:35 PM 6/16/97 -0700, Paul Sundling wrote: >STOP THIS RIGHT NOW. All you had to do was shut up. Since that seems to >be beyond your capabilities after you have been warned, House Jurai is >assessed a 5000 point fine. I'll subtract it when I have a chance. > > -=< Paul >=- > > > said to me: >------------------------- >> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 18:59:37 -0700 >> From: Lynxcat >> Subject: Re: Re. : Illeagel Mech Designs (Proof Attached) > >> Woohoo! Ill be getting $30 checks from Sho-sa Psyche Kagato and Chu-sa Wolf7 6 > > , >> I just *knew* Paul would find some way to get around the rulls and fine us. : > > ) >> >> He always does. :) >> >> Well Paul , Im happy to say its out of your hands this time , and in the han d > > s >> of the RoE Commission , your *poor* handleing of these situations has really >> angered the House of Jurai to know end , you havnt shown outright favortism , >> nothing that I scream and flame you with , but you *have* shown an increadbl e >> amount of leathergy in dealing with anti-CBL issues that the HJ has brought >> to the table , basicly proveing to me that all that stuff you said in the >> begining about fairness and fun is hogwash. >> >> So your right , Ill be takeing all of my disagreements to the RoE Commission >> since you seem to eager to let your freinds in the CBL cheat. >> >> Lynx >> >> At 08:58 AM 6/16/97 -0700, Paul Sundling wrote: >> >Well, as always your tone is decidedly hostile. There are two sides to >> >every story, but this will be investigated. In the past when there were >> >such allegations on kali, we used a standard 100ton penalty when a side >> >admitted to breaking the missile boat rule and it is more common a >> >misunderstanding of the rule. Couldn't you guys deal with this on your >> >own and make an agreement. Well here we go again. >> > >> >If I here one more accusation of the council being unfair from you, you >> >will be fined for each subsequent email you send my way with this! >> >Lynxcat, why do you taunt us like this? >> > >> > -=< Paul >=- >> > >> > >> > said to me: >> >------------------------- >> >> Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 19:41:17 -0700 >> >> From: Lynxcat >> >> Subject: Illeagel Mech Designs (Proof Attached) >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> --=====================_866454077==_ >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> >> >> Well Im really begining to wonder why cant CBL stand up and fight the HJ f > > air >> > > ly. >> >> >> >> Ok people; attached is a very illeagel Dire Wolf that CBL used in a *war* >> >> yesterday >> >> against the HJ , it contains 3 LRM-20s , an ammount of missle that the ru l > > ls >> >> clearly >> >> forbid....unless of course Paul has some more shadow rulls. >> >> >> >> Im not exspecting the Council to act , in fact my officers have a taken a >> >> bet that >> >> we'll actually get for some make-do reason a fine for bringing it to the >> >> Council. >> >> >> >> All I can say is this; if the Council lets CBL get away with 3 LRM-20s , I > > th >> > > ink >> >> Ill refit HJ mechs to mount 8 LRM-15s....both sides can cheat Neke. >> >> >> >> Hey it would be fun. :) >> >> >> >> Lynx >> >> Tai-shu Kabuki-mono Yamaneko Jurai >> >> "Money , sex , remote controll , big brother is watching you...." >> >> >> >> --=====================_866454077==_ >> >> Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="Drw01usr.mek" >> >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 >> >> Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Drw01usr.mek" >> >> >> >> ZAAAAAQAAAAEAAAAJAAAAAcAAAAJAAAACQAAAAAAAAADAAAADBdEFnYWKSNEFgwXAAAAAAAAA A > > AA >> >> AAAABgABACEAAAAJAAAAFQAAANoW2hYBAAEAAQABAFwbWxsXJxgnFScpCgwAAQAyAAAADAAAA B > > 8A >> >> AADaFtoW2haoFqgWqBaoFtoW2hbaFnIXchcMAAEAIQAAAAkAAAAVAAAA2hbaFgMAAwADAAMAE S > > cS >> >> JxMnFCdaG1kbDAABACIAAAAAAAAAEQAAALUU5xQCAAIAAgACAGEJcRcZJ3EXKiMrIwwAAQAiA A > > AA >> >> AAAAABEAAAC2FOgUQR9CH0cfYwkWJ2IJLCMtIy4jLyMMAAEAKgAAAAAAAAAVAAAAfRWvFeEVE x > > ZD >> >> H0QfAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgABACoAAAAAAAAAFQAAAH4VsBXiFRQWRR9GHwAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA A > > YA >> >> AQABAAAA/////wIAAAD/////AwAAAP////9hCQAA/////ykKAAD/////YgkAAP////9jCQAA/ / > > // >> >> /xEnAAABAAAAEicAAAIAAAATJwAAAwAAABQnAAABAAAAFScAAAEAAAAWJwAAAgAAABcnAAACA A > > AA >> >> GCcAAAMAAAAZJwAAAwAAAFJlYXBlcjIgQ2xhc3MgMwAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA A > > AA >> >> AAAAAAAAAAAA >> >> --=====================_866454077==_-- >> >> >> > >> > >> > > >>> lynx:19 (Message lynx:19) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 19:49:10 -0700 To: "Paul Sundling" Replied: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 20:06:06 -0700 Replied: Lynxcat Replied: trajen@auburn.net Replied: gamma@imperium.net Replied: blackjackals@geocities.com Replied: knockmor@transport.com Replied: robertmilot@videotron.ca Replied: ktank@ili.net Replied: dnyberg@acmenet.com Status: N X-Sender: lynxcat@pe.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Lynxcat Subject: Re: Re. : Re. : Re. : Question I didnt threaten anyone , I just said Ryouko likes to do that people she doesnt like. You seemed to think Im so awfull , I was demonstating I wasnt. It was an example; you seem so put out with dealing with *me* , maybe I should let *her* handel all disputes on the Council. Might be fun. :) Once again; not a threat , dont take it as sutch. Im just saying you could do a lot worse than me. Lynx At 07:43 PM 6/16/97 -0700, Paul Sundling wrote: >I really don't take kindly to threats. I didn't say I'd find you for >threatening me, but no more threat about hacking or tearing out phone lines >or I will. > > > said to me: >------------------------- >> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 19:10:58 -0700 >> From: Lynxcat >> Subject: Re: Re. : Re. : Question > >> You wouldnt want to Paul; Tai-shu Ryouko-chan Jurai is more insane than me >> and tends towards very hostile actions....I speaking not only of hacking >> but getting one's phone line's torn out of one's house. She makes me look >> like a kind hearted little dude. > >I better not here that from you. I will warn you that I am a system admin, >so I can track down things. > >> Then theres Tai-sa Nexx Nisshoko....well , do you want to hear from him? >> Known for a quick temper and holding grudges he always get back at people >> and has the soical politness of a Kagato family member. > >Nexx may have a temper, but he seems reasonable when shown the logic of the >situation. > >> >> And Tai-sho Bambi Jurai? You should be happy she doesnt speak mutch! >> Shes quiet , always plotting things , she makes sure she understands the >> situation fully before she says anything , and when she does its freigtning. >> Oh sure she acts kinds and polite , but shes really schemeing to have you >> get blown up or something. >Thats fine, at least she is polite. Getting your opponent blown up is >part of the game, making other players miserable is not. >> >> So....Paul , Im actually the nicest there is , and if you didnt constantly >> piss me off Id be a lot nicer....maybe also if CBL didnt cheat so damn mutch >> I wouldnt bring this stuff to the Council. >The same goes for me. You have slowed down my timetable over a week just >to deal with you. You blow everything out of proportion instead of settling >things yourself. You have done damage to this league and you eclipse all >other irritants of this league. > >> >> Im so bored that I bring complaints to the Council , I know CBL cheats. > >Innocent until proven guilty. I'm just glad I don't have to be involved >in the decision. Unless it goes your way, you'll scream about it. > >Paul >> >> -- >> Lynx >> Tai-shu Kabuki-mono Yamaneko Jurai >> "Money , sex , remote controll , big brother is watching you...." >> >> At 09:28 AM 6/16/97 -0700, Paul Sundling wrote: >> >Well you sent this right after lynx's message. Yes there are two sides to >> >every story. This whole situation is getting rather irritating. How come >> >over 60% of TKZ mail regarding dusputes comes from lynxcat. I'm talking th e >> >ENTIRE league. Without lynxcat on the leader list this would drop 60%! >> > >> >Groan! With this ever stop? I'd like to hear things from the other jurai >> >leaders for a change! >> > >> > -=< Paul >=- >> > >> > >> ><"guns4all@erols.com"@erols.com> said to me: >> >------------------------- >> >> Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 22:54:34 -0400 >> >> From: RT GONDAN <"guns4all@erols.com"@erols.com> >> >> Subject: Re: Re. : Question >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Paul, >> >> >> >> As usual Lynxcat is distorting the truth!! >> >> Prior to each isp failure we had already killed on of the opposition. >> >> This then left us with a 2 to 1 advantage. Since one of us got dropped >> >> by there isp it left the odds at 1 vs 1. Please tell me what advantage >> >> we had? We finished one of those fights. The other we allowed Hellstar >> >> to refight the other drop even though he was killed fair and square with >> >> out any help from me. RDL also had I believe two isp failures. >> >> >> >> It is crystal clear to me Lynxcat will deceive, distort any and all >> >> battle events just to get a head. He has no HONOR and no SHAME. The >> >> worst thing of all is he has no respect from us! Respect is earned and >> >> he by his own actions deserves none. >> >> >> >> Respectfully >> >> >> >> GUNNER >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Lynxcat wrote: >> >> > >> >> > You know if youd stop haveing to investage every sitution personly youd >> >> > have a lot more free time....it will only get worse as more and more un i > > ts >> >> > have rull disputes. >> >> > >> >> > Hell , Im betting sometime this week this council will be getting mail >> >> > about CBL's "ISP problems" today. Seem everytime one of them was about t > > o >> >> > die their ISP was mysterously go on the blink. Thee times....amazing , e > > h? >> >> > >> >> > Do you have an unpublished rull to handel this Paul? >> >> > >> >> > I hope so , because if not.... >> >> > >> >> > Maybe in the future CBL ISP problems might rub off on us; if a mech tha t > > pu >> > > nts >> >> > is still alive....well you never know what might on the internet these d > > ays >> > > do >> >> > you? All kinds of problems! Why I bet if a CBL punted in the middle of t > > he >> > > game >> >> > all the HJs and RDLs might just punt right along with him. You know how > > uns >> > > table >> >> > Netmech is dont you? >> >> > >> >> > Accidents happen....you have to remember that. >> >> > >> >> > Lynx >> >> > >> >> > At 07:15 PM 6/14/97 -0700, Paul Sundling wrote: >> >> > >It's not a forfeit, they played out that match and I don't blame them f > > or >> >> > >leaving considering that in my experience the natural tendancy is for a > > n >> >> > >arguement of not less than one hour and not more than four hours to >> >> > >follow the use of that tactic. It is usually followed by a bunch of m a > > il >> >> > >regarding the incident until it finally settles down, although it seem s >> >> > >is seldom forgotten. >> >> > > >> >> > > -=< Paul >=- >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> Did you ever decide one way or the other on Nova Roma's forfeit? I k n > > ow >> >> > >> you said that HJ some how "induced" it , though I fail to see how th e > > CB >> > > Ls >> >> > >> walking off the feild on their on recogniansese had anything to do w i > > th >> > > me. >> >> > >> >> >> > >> Belive me , I only *wish* I knew how to "induce" people to leave the > > fei >> > > ld. >> >> > > >> >> > >Keep using that tactic and you may get them to leave the league. Don' t >> >> > >play stupid with me lynx. I know you happen to be pretty smart. :) >> >> > >I still remember when the OA used this against me and we got so pissed > > at >> > > each >> >> > >other that we wouldn't even fight each other for about 2 weeks. >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> Also; that new email , it dont work. >> >> > >> >> >> > >> Lynx > > >>> lynx:20 (Message lynx:20) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 20:11:08 -0700 To: Lynxcat cc: ktank@ili.net, dnyberg@acmenet.com, trajen@auburn.net, gamma@imperium.net, blackjackals@geocities.com, knockmor@transport.com, robertmilot@videotron.ca From: "Paul Sundling" Subject: Re. : Re. : Re. : Illeagel Mech Designs (Proof Attached) OK that's 5000 points more, we're up to 15,000. Your approach is unnecessary. I don't want to kick Jurai out of TKZ, I just want them to pick a more agreeable leader to deal with outsiders and the council. You have caused too much of a disruption on this ladder already. If you continue on this course, it will cause me to take action not against house jurai, but against you. FORGET my email. Go somewhere else and cool down. If you leave me alone for a while maybe I'll be able to deal with you on a limited basis. -=< Paul >=- said to me: ------------------------- > Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 19:54:20 -0700 > From: Lynxcat > Subject: Re: Re. : Re. : Illeagel Mech Designs (Proof Attached) > Im not going to stop it!! Nya nya nya nya! :) > > *Lynx knows how evil he is* > > Like I said Paul , I read Jackel's letter after 7 of yours , if you fine > me for no reason Ill have proof of blantant favortism and....well , Ill > play a hand Ive been hideing. Heh. :) > > Im not scared of you , fines , the CBL , or getting HJ kicked off the TKZ , > theres NOTHING you can do that will phase me or put me in my place.... > > Because I simply dont care anymore. > > -- > Lynx > Tai-shu Kabuki-mono Yamaneko Jurai > "Money , sex , remote controll , big brother is watching you...." > > At 07:45 PM 6/16/97 -0700, Paul Sundling wrote: > >That's another 5000 points. Stop pushing me. I don't even want to be > >involved in this crap, why don't you let up?? I really don't want to > >ever get another email from you. Please!! STOP IT!! > > > > -=< Paul >=- > > > > > > said to me: > >------------------------- > >> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 19:25:36 -0700 > >> From: Lynxcat > >> Subject: Re: Re. : Illeagel Mech Designs (Proof Attached) > > > >> My antagonistic tone is caused by your attitude Paul. See , victems (HJ) t > end > >> to get a bit hostile when the law (PAUL) threaten them with fines , ignore > >> them , > >> and shows complete disintrest in what ever illeagel actions the other side > >> (CBL) is doing. > >> > >> Are we haveing fun yet? My House of Jurai doesnt think so. > >> > >> -- > >> Lynx > >> Tai-shu Kabuki-mono Yamaneko Jurai > >> "Money , sex , remote controll , big brother is watching you...." > >> > >> At 10:04 AM 6/16/97 -0700, Paul Sundling wrote: > >> >OK so then if Abtakha admits to the people handling the dispute that he u > sed > >> >the mech they can be fined. If he doesn't then HJ will have made a false > >> >accusation. So the RoE can handle this if the council wants. I'd like t > o > >> >make a distinction between breaking a rule and cheating. So lynxcat in e > ith > > > er > >> >case, please avoid the use of cheating. I reserve that word for using > >> >impossible mechedit mechs. > >> > > >> >Also your antagonistic tone is uncalled for. Please, stop it. > >> > > >> > > >> > -=< Paul >=- > >> > > >> > > >> > said to me: > >> >------------------------- > >> >> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 04:33:04 -0700 > >> >> From: Lynxcat > >> >> Subject: Re: Illeagel Mech Designs (Proof Attached) > >> > > >> >> Sorry Nekekami , but your Abtakha admited to Hunter that he did indeed > use > >> >> it. :) > >> >> > >> >> Its out of Paul's hands my dear , and its now in the hands of the RoE > >> >> commission , > >> >> along with startling evadence , not only the mech but both of my pilots > >> >> follow up. > >> >> > >> >> Lets see....youve lied in the past....your words mean less than dirt to > me > > > . > >> >> > >> >> In fact....you mean less than dirt to me. Share a group hug now? :) > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> Lynx > >> >> Tai-shu Kabuki-mono Yamaneko Jurai > >> >> "Money , sex , remote controll , big brother is watching you...." > >> >> > >> >> At 07:07 AM 6/16/97 -0400, David Fong wrote: > >> >> >Lynx, I did not expect you to sink to this low of making up things out > of > >> >> >thin air. I know you just lost over 37K worth of points in exchange f > or > >> >> >less than 7K of CBL and it hurts, but this is just out right nonsense. > >> >> > > >> >> >Paul, none of CBL pilots used that mech. > >> >> > > >> >> >Nekekami > >> >> > > >> >> >At 07:41 PM 6/15/97 -0700, you wrote: > >> >> >>Well Im really begining to wonder why cant CBL stand up and fight the > HJ > >> >> >fairly. > >> >> >> > >> >> >>Ok people; attached is a very illeagel Dire Wolf that CBL used in a * > war > > > * > >> >> >>yesterday > >> >> >>against the HJ , it contains 3 LRM-20s , an ammount of missle that th > e r > > > ull > >> > > s > >> >> >>clearly > >> >> >>forbid....unless of course Paul has some more shadow rulls. > >> >> >> > >> >> >>Im not exspecting the Council to act , in fact my officers have a tak > en > > > a > >> >> >>bet that > >> >> >>we'll actually get for some make-do reason a fine for bringing it to > the > >> >> >>Council. > >> >> >> > >> >> >>All I can say is this; if the Council lets CBL get away with 3 LRM-20 > s , > > > I > >> >> >think > >> >> >>Ill refit HJ mechs to mount 8 LRM-15s....both sides can cheat Neke. > >> >> >> > >> >> >>Hey it would be fun. :) > >> >> >> > >> >> >>Lynx > >> >> >>Tai-shu Kabuki-mono Yamaneko Jurai > >> >> >>"Money , sex , remote controll , big brother is watching you...." > >> >> >> > >> >> >>Attachment Converted: C:\IDT\Drw01usr.mek > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > >>> lynx:21 (Message lynx:21) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 19:54:20 -0700 To: "Paul Sundling" cc: ktank@ili.net, dnyberg@acmenet.com, guns4all@erols.com, dfong@idt.net, tukayyid@bluegrass.net, trajen@auburn.net, gamma@imperium.net, blackjackals@geocities.com, knockmor@transport.com, robertmilot@videotron.ca Replied: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 20:11:09 -0700 Replied: Lynxcat Replied: ktank@ili.net Replied: dnyberg@acmenet.com Replied: trajen@auburn.net Replied: gamma@imperium.net Replied: blackjackals@geocities.com Replied: knockmor@transport.com Replied: robertmilot@videotron.ca Status: N X-Sender: lynxcat@pe.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Lynxcat Subject: Re: Re. : Re. : Illeagel Mech Designs (Proof Attached) Im not going to stop it!! Nya nya nya nya! :) *Lynx knows how evil he is* Like I said Paul , I read Jackel's letter after 7 of yours , if you fine me for no reason Ill have proof of blantant favortism and....well , Ill play a hand Ive been hideing. Heh. :) Im not scared of you , fines , the CBL , or getting HJ kicked off the TKZ , theres NOTHING you can do that will phase me or put me in my place.... Because I simply dont care anymore. -- Lynx Tai-shu Kabuki-mono Yamaneko Jurai "Money , sex , remote controll , big brother is watching you...." At 07:45 PM 6/16/97 -0700, Paul Sundling wrote: >That's another 5000 points. Stop pushing me. I don't even want to be >involved in this crap, why don't you let up?? I really don't want to >ever get another email from you. Please!! STOP IT!! > > -=< Paul >=- > > > said to me: >------------------------- >> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 19:25:36 -0700 >> From: Lynxcat >> Subject: Re: Re. : Illeagel Mech Designs (Proof Attached) > >> My antagonistic tone is caused by your attitude Paul. See , victems (HJ) ten d >> to get a bit hostile when the law (PAUL) threaten them with fines , ignore >> them , >> and shows complete disintrest in what ever illeagel actions the other side >> (CBL) is doing. >> >> Are we haveing fun yet? My House of Jurai doesnt think so. >> >> -- >> Lynx >> Tai-shu Kabuki-mono Yamaneko Jurai >> "Money , sex , remote controll , big brother is watching you...." >> >> At 10:04 AM 6/16/97 -0700, Paul Sundling wrote: >> >OK so then if Abtakha admits to the people handling the dispute that he use d >> >the mech they can be fined. If he doesn't then HJ will have made a false >> >accusation. So the RoE can handle this if the council wants. I'd like to >> >make a distinction between breaking a rule and cheating. So lynxcat in eit h > > er >> >case, please avoid the use of cheating. I reserve that word for using >> >impossible mechedit mechs. >> > >> >Also your antagonistic tone is uncalled for. Please, stop it. >> > >> > >> > -=< Paul >=- >> > >> > >> > said to me: >> >------------------------- >> >> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 04:33:04 -0700 >> >> From: Lynxcat >> >> Subject: Re: Illeagel Mech Designs (Proof Attached) >> > >> >> Sorry Nekekami , but your Abtakha admited to Hunter that he did indeed us e >> >> it. :) >> >> >> >> Its out of Paul's hands my dear , and its now in the hands of the RoE >> >> commission , >> >> along with startling evadence , not only the mech but both of my pilots >> >> follow up. >> >> >> >> Lets see....youve lied in the past....your words mean less than dirt to m e > > . >> >> >> >> In fact....you mean less than dirt to me. Share a group hug now? :) >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Lynx >> >> Tai-shu Kabuki-mono Yamaneko Jurai >> >> "Money , sex , remote controll , big brother is watching you...." >> >> >> >> At 07:07 AM 6/16/97 -0400, David Fong wrote: >> >> >Lynx, I did not expect you to sink to this low of making up things out o f >> >> >thin air. I know you just lost over 37K worth of points in exchange for >> >> >less than 7K of CBL and it hurts, but this is just out right nonsense. >> >> > >> >> >Paul, none of CBL pilots used that mech. >> >> > >> >> >Nekekami >> >> > >> >> >At 07:41 PM 6/15/97 -0700, you wrote: >> >> >>Well Im really begining to wonder why cant CBL stand up and fight the H J >> >> >fairly. >> >> >> >> >> >>Ok people; attached is a very illeagel Dire Wolf that CBL used in a *wa r > > * >> >> >>yesterday >> >> >>against the HJ , it contains 3 LRM-20s , an ammount of missle that the r > > ull >> > > s >> >> >>clearly >> >> >>forbid....unless of course Paul has some more shadow rulls. >> >> >> >> >> >>Im not exspecting the Council to act , in fact my officers have a taken > > a >> >> >>bet that >> >> >>we'll actually get for some make-do reason a fine for bringing it to th e >> >> >>Council. >> >> >> >> >> >>All I can say is this; if the Council lets CBL get away with 3 LRM-20s , > > I >> >> >think >> >> >>Ill refit HJ mechs to mount 8 LRM-15s....both sides can cheat Neke. >> >> >> >> >> >>Hey it would be fun. :) >> >> >> >> >> >>Lynx >> >> >>Tai-shu Kabuki-mono Yamaneko Jurai >> >> >>"Money , sex , remote controll , big brother is watching you...." >> >> >> >> >> >>Attachment Converted: C:\IDT\Drw01usr.mek >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> > >> > > >>> lynx:22 (Message lynx:22) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 20:09:29 -0700 To: trajen , Khan Jackal , Paul Sundling , ktank@ili.net, dnyberg@acmenet.com cc: DaToyz@aol.com, twayned@frugal.com, guns4all@erols.com, dfong@idt.net, tukayyid@bluegrass.net Status: N X-Sender: lynxcat@pe.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Lynxcat Subject: Re: message from lotus And what does respect matter? I care little what people think of me , and I care even less what they do to me; I stoped careing some time ago , none of it really matters. Ive been almost a month fighting leathergy , I have a right to complain , and considering the fact that you have never really said anything one way or the other in HJ\CBL disputes with the exception of the 30 minute crap that Paul forced on all of us....I dont see how you can even get angry. The Council doesnt like me....fine. What does it matter to me? If the Council were fair like it claims , like\dislike wouldnt matter. You could all take a lesson for Jackel on this. -- Lynx Tai-shu Kabuki-mono Yamaneko Jurai "Money , sex , remote controll , big brother is watching you...." At 10:59 PM 6/16/97 -0500, trajen wrote: >Lynxcat, you have severed the very last thread holding together my repect >for you. You accuse me of being lethargic in my actions, judgements, and >replies. You accuse me of the allowment of cheating in a ladder that >myself and several others have so dearly devoted time to. You will no >longer be given any benefit of the doubt Lynx. I no longer respect you, >nor your words. This matter will be considered, and diligently at that, >but you from ths day on will be held in disdain. Grow up. > > >-Andrew > > >At 07:20 PM 6/16/97 -0700, Lynxcat wrote: >>Im not really replying to the orginaly letter , as I have no dispute >>with anything it , Iam however noteing this. >> >>>"Cheating will NOT be tolerated in the Killing Zone. If a Pilot is >>>PROVEN to have used an illegal mech design in a real battle, then the >>>RoE Commission OFFICIALLY recommends that the person found to have >>>cheated should be handed to their Group leader for IMMEDIATE punishment. >>>Furthermore, it is the finding of the RoE that this pilot be reprimanded >>>SEVERELY. We therefore establish this first ruling as follows: >> >>LYNXCAT BITCHING ALERT. >> >>The TKZ *has* tolerated cheating , thats all the CBLs have doen since we >>first took them on. However , not through outright tolence , but instead >>through leathergy....Ive watch most of the Council members , with the very >>refreshing exception of Jackel , either ignore my acusations , or act like >>they are on dope; >> >>"Hey man....so what? I mean....hey , cheating is ok man. Have fun man!" >> >>With the CBL's rampant abusive cheating one one side , and the Council's >>complete >>leathergy on the other , HJ is stuck in the middle....and as a freind told >>me once , >>thats a crappy place to be. >> >>-- >>Lynx >>Tai-shu Kabuki-mono Yamaneko Jurai >>"Money , sex , remote controll , big brother is watching you...." >> >> > > >>> lynx:23 (Message lynx:23) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 22:59:00 -0500 To: Lynxcat , Khan Jackal , Paul Sundling cc: DaToyz@aol.com, twayned@frugal.com, guns4all@erols.com, dfong@idt.net, tukayyid@bluegrass.net Status: N X-Sender: trajen@auburn.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19970617022016.00a77758@pe.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: trajen Subject: Re: message from lotus Lynxcat, you have severed the very last thread holding together my repect for you. You accuse me of being lethargic in my actions, judgements, and replies. You accuse me of the allowment of cheating in a ladder that myself and several others have so dearly devoted time to. You will no longer be given any benefit of the doubt Lynx. I no longer respect you, nor your words. This matter will be considered, and diligently at that, but you from ths day on will be held in disdain. Grow up. -Andrew At 07:20 PM 6/16/97 -0700, Lynxcat wrote: >Im not really replying to the orginaly letter , as I have no dispute >with anything it , Iam however noteing this. > >>"Cheating will NOT be tolerated in the Killing Zone. If a Pilot is >>PROVEN to have used an illegal mech design in a real battle, then the >>RoE Commission OFFICIALLY recommends that the person found to have >>cheated should be handed to their Group leader for IMMEDIATE punishment. >>Furthermore, it is the finding of the RoE that this pilot be reprimanded >>SEVERELY. We therefore establish this first ruling as follows: > >LYNXCAT BITCHING ALERT. > >The TKZ *has* tolerated cheating , thats all the CBLs have doen since we >first took them on. However , not through outright tolence , but instead >through leathergy....Ive watch most of the Council members , with the very >refreshing exception of Jackel , either ignore my acusations , or act like >they are on dope; > >"Hey man....so what? I mean....hey , cheating is ok man. Have fun man!" > >With the CBL's rampant abusive cheating one one side , and the Council's >complete >leathergy on the other , HJ is stuck in the middle....and as a freind told >me once , >thats a crappy place to be. > >-- >Lynx >Tai-shu Kabuki-mono Yamaneko Jurai >"Money , sex , remote controll , big brother is watching you...." > > >>> lynx:24 (Message lynx:24) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 20:03:50 -0700 To: "Paul Sundling" cc: ktank@ili.net, dnyberg@acmenet.com, trajen@auburn.net, gamma@imperium. net, blackjackals@geocities.com, knockmor@transport.com, robertmilot@videotron.ca Status: N X-Sender: lynxcat@pe.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Lynxcat Subject: Re: Re. : ENOUGH! And if you fine me that 10k it will only be the begining. That was a threat and you may take it as sutch. -- Lynx Tai-shu Kabuki-mono Yamaneko Jurai "Money , sex , remote controll , big brother is watching you...." At 07:59 PM 6/16/97 -0700, Paul Sundling wrote: >I'm glad you stopped. The 2 fines for 5000 will stand since you HAD read >the letter where you were warned not to continue to accuse the high council >of unfairness. I personally don't want to be involved in any disputes >involving you lynxcat, not good for my heart condition. I would request >that you NEVER EVER send me any more mail about disputes. *I* don't >care and I certainly have better things to do with my time. All I asked >you to do was stop it and warned you against continuing to attack the >fairness of the council. YOu attack us even when we're not making the >decision. I've had it with you. DO NOT MAIL ME ANYMORE AT ALL LYNXCAT. >You have shown continual disrespect and you are a prime example of what >we DON'T want in this league. You have damaged this league, delayed it >and been a larger irritant than all the rest of the league combined. >FORGET MY EMAIL ADDRESS. I'M BEGGING YOU. > > -=< Paul >=- > > > said to me: >------------------------- >> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 19:42:39 -0700 >> From: Lynxcat >> Subject: Re: ENOUGH! > >> Yes I can agree with this , although I just sent 7 letters to the Council >> before I got to this letter , so I appologize wholheartly; I hadnt read >> this yet. >> >> -- >> Lynx >> Tai-shu Kabuki-mono Yamaneko Jurai >> "Money , sex , remote controll , big brother is watching you...." >> >> At 08:05 PM 6/16/97 +0000, Khan Jackal wrote: >> >ENOUGH! >> > >> >Paul and I have BOTH spoken on this matter. From here on out it is to be >> >resolved BY THE RoE COMMISSION! Anymore mail sent directly to the >> >Council regarding it, other than by the RoE themselves - WILL RESULT IN >> >FINES! >> > >> >Damn it. Grow up you guys. ALL OF YOU. This is EXACTLY why the RoE was >> >formed in the first place, so that the Council themselves only has to >> >deal with things of this nature as a last ditch effort. READ THE >> >FRIGGING NEWS PAGE, and maybe, just maybe, then you will see that >> >bringing this to the Council was NOT what should have been done in the >> >first place. Either start using proper channels or SUFFER THE >> >CONSEQUENCES. I and Paul have BOTH been more than fair with BOTH groups >> >involved here, and I for one, am NOT going to sit back and idly watch my >> >mail box fill up with ANOTHER HJ/CBL dispute. This is childish, immature >> >BS, and is neither fitting OR becoming from two GROUP LEADERS. You guys >> >are BOTH damn good friends of mine, and I respect you a great deal, and >> >I am sure that Paul does also. But PLEASE, for the love of god, the >> >game, and the ladder itself - LEARN TO WORK TOGETHER. >> > >> >An irritated Zone Councilman named: >> >Khan Jackal >> >1st Khan, Clan Black Jackals >> >XO MacWarrior 1st Assault Star >> >Core Creator/Zone Councilman - tHe kILLINg zONe >> > >> >For a really grand time go to http://www.tkz.net, >> >or you could just sit around in your underwear eating oreos> >less fattening>. >> > >> >If you wanna kick butt and take names while capturing the universe and >> >vanquishing >> >all those unrighteous heathens that live in the Inner Sphere, then go >> >to: >> >http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Castle/2495...the home of the CBJ. >> > > >>> lynx:25 (Message lynx:25) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 20:02:00 -0700 To: "Paul Sundling" cc: ktank@ili.net, dnyberg@acmenet.com, trajen@auburn.net, gamma@imperium. net, blackjackals@geocities.com, knockmor@transport.com, robertmilot@videotron.ca, guns4all@erols.com, dfong@idt.net, tukayyid@bluegrass.net Status: N X-Sender: lynxcat@pe.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Lynxcat Subject: Re: Re. : Re. : Illeagel Mech Designs (Proof Attached) Ok Paul....if you like Ill bring Ryouko in. What she does after that , is none of my concern , Iam totaly blameless after that point. -- Lynx Tai-shu Kabuki-mono Yamaneko Jurai "Money , sex , remote controll , big brother is watching you...." At 07:52 PM 6/16/97 -0700, Paul Sundling wrote: >I'd really like to hear someone other than lynxcat from jurai speak. >Lynxcat, let someone else do the talking. > > -=< Paul >=- > > > said to me: >------------------------- >> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 19:41:08 -0700 >> From: Lynxcat >> Subject: Re: Re. : Illeagel Mech Designs (Proof Attached) > >> Blame CBL Paul; if they didnt cheat , I wouldnt complain. >> >> Lynx >> >> At 09:52 AM 6/16/97 -0700, Paul Sundling wrote: >> >Great! Another full blown dispute. >> > >> > -=< Paul >=- >> > >> > >> > said to me: >> >------------------------- >> >> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 07:07:24 -0400 (EDT) >> >> From: David Fong >> >> Subject: Re: Illeagel Mech Designs (Proof Attached) >> > >> >> Lynx, I did not expect you to sink to this low of making up things out of >> >> thin air. I know you just lost over 37K worth of points in exchange for >> >> less than 7K of CBL and it hurts, but this is just out right nonsense. >> >> >> >> Paul, none of CBL pilots used that mech. >> >> >> >> Nekekami >> >> >> >> At 07:41 PM 6/15/97 -0700, you wrote: >> >> >Well Im really begining to wonder why cant CBL stand up and fight the HJ >> >> fairly. >> >> > >> >> >Ok people; attached is a very illeagel Dire Wolf that CBL used in a *war * >> >> >yesterday >> >> >against the HJ , it contains 3 LRM-20s , an ammount of missle that the r u > > lls >> >> >clearly >> >> >forbid....unless of course Paul has some more shadow rulls. >> >> > >> >> >Im not exspecting the Council to act , in fact my officers have a taken a >> >> >bet that >> >> >we'll actually get for some make-do reason a fine for bringing it to the >> >> >Council. >> >> > >> >> >All I can say is this; if the Council lets CBL get away with 3 LRM-20s , > > I >> >> think >> >> >Ill refit HJ mechs to mount 8 LRM-15s....both sides can cheat Neke. >> >> > >> >> >Hey it would be fun. :) >> >> > >> >> >Lynx >> >> >Tai-shu Kabuki-mono Yamaneko Jurai >> >> >"Money , sex , remote controll , big brother is watching you...." >> >> > >> >> >Attachment Converted: C:\IDT\Drw01usr.mek >> >> > >> >> >> > >> > >> > > >>> lynx:26 (Message lynx:26) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 23:07:29 -0500 To: Lynxcat , "Paul Sundling" cc: ktank@ili.net, dnyberg@acmenet.com, gamma@imperium.net, blackjackals@geocities.com, knockmor@transport.com, robertmilot@videotron.ca Status: N X-Sender: trajen@auburn.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19970617030350.00a8078c@pe.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: trajen Subject: Re: Re. : ENOUGH! Atleast spell right, Jesus. You complain like a child, act like a child, and much worse, spell like a child. Atleast make your whining pleasing to read. Please. At 08:03 PM 6/16/97 -0700, Lynxcat wrote: >And if you fine me that 10k it will only be the begining. > >That was a threat and you may take it as sutch. > >-- >Lynx >Tai-shu Kabuki-mono Yamaneko Jurai >"Money , sex , remote controll , big brother is watching you...." > >At 07:59 PM 6/16/97 -0700, Paul Sundling wrote: >>I'm glad you stopped. The 2 fines for 5000 will stand since you HAD read >>the letter where you were warned not to continue to accuse the high council >>of unfairness. I personally don't want to be involved in any disputes >>involving you lynxcat, not good for my heart condition. I would request >>that you NEVER EVER send me any more mail about disputes. *I* don't >>care and I certainly have better things to do with my time. All I asked >>you to do was stop it and warned you against continuing to attack the >>fairness of the council. YOu attack us even when we're not making the >>decision. I've had it with you. DO NOT MAIL ME ANYMORE AT ALL LYNXCAT. >>You have shown continual disrespect and you are a prime example of what >>we DON'T want in this league. You have damaged this league, delayed it >>and been a larger irritant than all the rest of the league combined. >>FORGET MY EMAIL ADDRESS. I'M BEGGING YOU. >> >> -=< Paul >=- >> >> >> said to me: >>------------------------- >>> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 19:42:39 -0700 >>> From: Lynxcat >>> Subject: Re: ENOUGH! >> >>> Yes I can agree with this , although I just sent 7 letters to the Council >>> before I got to this letter , so I appologize wholheartly; I hadnt read >>> this yet. >>> >>> -- >>> Lynx >>> Tai-shu Kabuki-mono Yamaneko Jurai >>> "Money , sex , remote controll , big brother is watching you...." >>> >>> At 08:05 PM 6/16/97 +0000, Khan Jackal wrote: >>> >ENOUGH! >>> > >>> >Paul and I have BOTH spoken on this matter. From here on out it is to be >>> >resolved BY THE RoE COMMISSION! Anymore mail sent directly to the >>> >Council regarding it, other than by the RoE themselves - WILL RESULT IN >>> >FINES! >>> > >>> >Damn it. Grow up you guys. ALL OF YOU. This is EXACTLY why the RoE was >>> >formed in the first place, so that the Council themselves only has to >>> >deal with things of this nature as a last ditch effort. READ THE >>> >FRIGGING NEWS PAGE, and maybe, just maybe, then you will see that >>> >bringing this to the Council was NOT what should have been done in the >>> >first place. Either start using proper channels or SUFFER THE >>> >CONSEQUENCES. I and Paul have BOTH been more than fair with BOTH groups >>> >involved here, and I for one, am NOT going to sit back and idly watch my >>> >mail box fill up with ANOTHER HJ/CBL dispute. This is childish, immature >>> >BS, and is neither fitting OR becoming from two GROUP LEADERS. You guys >>> >are BOTH damn good friends of mine, and I respect you a great deal, and >>> >I am sure that Paul does also. But PLEASE, for the love of god, the >>> >game, and the ladder itself - LEARN TO WORK TOGETHER. >>> > >>> >An irritated Zone Councilman named: >>> >Khan Jackal >>> >1st Khan, Clan Black Jackals >>> >XO MacWarrior 1st Assault Star >>> >Core Creator/Zone Councilman - tHe kILLINg zONe >>> > >>> >For a really grand time go to http://www.tkz.net, >>> >or you could just sit around in your underwear eating oreos>> >less fattening>. >>> > >>> >If you wanna kick butt and take names while capturing the universe and >>> >vanquishing >>> >all those unrighteous heathens that live in the Inner Sphere, then go >>> >to: >>> >http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Castle/2495...the home of the CBJ. >>> >> >> > > >>> lynx:27 (Message lynx:27) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 20:29:33 -0700 To: Lynxcat cc: ktank@ili.net, dnyberg@acmenet.com, trajen@auburn.net, gamma@imperium.net, blackjackals@geocities.com, knockmor@transport.com, robertmilot@videotron.ca From: "Paul Sundling" Subject: READ THIS NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why not Nexx? He seems reasonable and much more representative of the fine jurai warriors. Yes you sense distress. you just wasted much of my time and got me so incensed that I won't be able to program the rest of the night. I'll drop the 15K of fines, provided that I never receive another letter from you for ANY reason, including personal letters, results or anything. HAVE SOMEONE else from jurai mail something if it must come to me. You can mail everyone at killzone@stomped.com, we share that email, but if I ever get another email from you, including a reply to this letter, House Jurai gets charged 50K in fines. SO HAVE SOMEONE ELSE IN HOUSE JURAI LET ME KNOW YOUR RESPONSE. I'm NOT trying to trick in you into another fine and I'm being very specific so there are no misunderstandings. I would actually be happy if you accept. THen I can actually work on the things I'm supposed to be doing instead of getting in an email match with you. I can't get back the time that you wasted, but at least if I don't get mail from you, that will save me lots of time in the long run. -=< Paul >=- said to me: ------------------------- > Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 20:21:49 -0700 > From: Lynxcat > Subject: Re: Re. : Re. : Re. : Re. : Question > Shes 10 times worse than me Paul; 10 times worse. As I said , she has the > added evil stuff to go with her. Its either her or me. > > Paul....I sense distress....are you getting mad? Maybe if you dont fine > me that 10k Ill never mail ever again; youd have my word. Deal? > > -- > Lynx > Tai-shu Kabuki-mono Yamaneko Jurai > "Money , sex , remote controll , big brother is watching you...." >>> lynx:28 (Message lynx:28) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 20:26:28 -0700 To: "Paul Sundling" cc: ktank@ili.net, dnyberg@acmenet.com, trajen@auburn.net, gamma@imperium. net, blackjackals@geocities.com, knockmor@transport.com, robertmilot@videotron.ca Status: N X-Sender: lynxcat@pe.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Lynxcat Subject: Re: Re. : Re. : Re. : Illeagel Mech Designs (Proof Attached) A) Kick HJ out and Ill play my hand. I wont say what the hand is because youll all cry; "Threat!" B) I WILL agree to *never* mail you again if you dont pull that *unfair* fine. Im good to my word; ask anyone. -- Lynx Tai-shu Kabuki-mono Yamaneko Jurai "Money , sex , remote controll , big brother is watching you...." At 08:11 PM 6/16/97 -0700, Paul Sundling wrote: >OK that's 5000 points more, we're up to 15,000. Your approach is >unnecessary. I don't want to kick Jurai out of TKZ, I just want them >to pick a more agreeable leader to deal with outsiders and the council. >You have caused too much of a disruption on this ladder already. If >you continue on this course, it will cause me to take action not against >house jurai, but against you. FORGET my email. Go somewhere else and >cool down. If you leave me alone for a while maybe I'll be able to deal >with you on a limited basis. > > -=< Paul >=- > > > said to me: >------------------------- >> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 19:54:20 -0700 >> From: Lynxcat >> Subject: Re: Re. : Re. : Illeagel Mech Designs (Proof Attached) > >> Im not going to stop it!! Nya nya nya nya! :) >> >> *Lynx knows how evil he is* >> >> Like I said Paul , I read Jackel's letter after 7 of yours , if you fine >> me for no reason Ill have proof of blantant favortism and....well , Ill >> play a hand Ive been hideing. Heh. :) >> >> Im not scared of you , fines , the CBL , or getting HJ kicked off the TKZ , >> theres NOTHING you can do that will phase me or put me in my place.... >> >> Because I simply dont care anymore. >> >> -- >> Lynx >> Tai-shu Kabuki-mono Yamaneko Jurai >> "Money , sex , remote controll , big brother is watching you...." >> >> At 07:45 PM 6/16/97 -0700, Paul Sundling wrote: >> >That's another 5000 points. Stop pushing me. I don't even want to be >> >involved in this crap, why don't you let up?? I really don't want to >> >ever get another email from you. Please!! STOP IT!! >> > >> > -=< Paul >=- >> > >> > >> > said to me: >> >------------------------- >> >> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 19:25:36 -0700 >> >> From: Lynxcat >> >> Subject: Re: Re. : Illeagel Mech Designs (Proof Attached) >> > >> >> My antagonistic tone is caused by your attitude Paul. See , victems (HJ) t > > end >> >> to get a bit hostile when the law (PAUL) threaten them with fines , ignor e >> >> them , >> >> and shows complete disintrest in what ever illeagel actions the other sid e >> >> (CBL) is doing. >> >> >> >> Are we haveing fun yet? My House of Jurai doesnt think so. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Lynx >> >> Tai-shu Kabuki-mono Yamaneko Jurai >> >> "Money , sex , remote controll , big brother is watching you...." >> >> >> >> At 10:04 AM 6/16/97 -0700, Paul Sundling wrote: >> >> >OK so then if Abtakha admits to the people handling the dispute that he u > > sed >> >> >the mech they can be fined. If he doesn't then HJ will have made a fals e >> >> >accusation. So the RoE can handle this if the council wants. I'd like t > > o >> >> >make a distinction between breaking a rule and cheating. So lynxcat in e > > ith >> > > er >> >> >case, please avoid the use of cheating. I reserve that word for using >> >> >impossible mechedit mechs. >> >> > >> >> >Also your antagonistic tone is uncalled for. Please, stop it. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > -=< Paul >=- >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > said to me: >> >> >------------------------- >> >> >> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 04:33:04 -0700 >> >> >> From: Lynxcat >> >> >> Subject: Re: Illeagel Mech Designs (Proof Attached) >> >> > >> >> >> Sorry Nekekami , but your Abtakha admited to Hunter that he did indeed > > use >> >> >> it. :) >> >> >> >> >> >> Its out of Paul's hands my dear , and its now in the hands of the RoE >> >> >> commission , >> >> >> along with startling evadence , not only the mech but both of my pilot s >> >> >> follow up. >> >> >> >> >> >> Lets see....youve lied in the past....your words mean less than dirt t o > > me >> > > . >> >> >> >> >> >> In fact....you mean less than dirt to me. Share a group hug now? :) >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> Lynx >> >> >> Tai-shu Kabuki-mono Yamaneko Jurai >> >> >> "Money , sex , remote controll , big brother is watching you...." >> >> >> >> >> >> At 07:07 AM 6/16/97 -0400, David Fong wrote: >> >> >> >Lynx, I did not expect you to sink to this low of making up things ou t > > of >> >> >> >thin air. I know you just lost over 37K worth of points in exchange f > > or >> >> >> >less than 7K of CBL and it hurts, but this is just out right nonsense . >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Paul, none of CBL pilots used that mech. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Nekekami >> >> >> > >> >> >> >At 07:41 PM 6/15/97 -0700, you wrote: >> >> >> >>Well Im really begining to wonder why cant CBL stand up and fight th e > > HJ >> >> >> >fairly. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Ok people; attached is a very illeagel Dire Wolf that CBL used in a * > > war >> > > * >> >> >> >>yesterday >> >> >> >>against the HJ , it contains 3 LRM-20s , an ammount of missle that t h > > e r >> > > ull >> >> > > s >> >> >> >>clearly >> >> >> >>forbid....unless of course Paul has some more shadow rulls. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Im not exspecting the Council to act , in fact my officers have a ta k > > en >> > > a >> >> >> >>bet that >> >> >> >>we'll actually get for some make-do reason a fine for bringing it to > > the >> >> >> >>Council. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>All I can say is this; if the Council lets CBL get away with 3 LRM-2 0 > > s , >> > > I >> >> >> >think >> >> >> >>Ill refit HJ mechs to mount 8 LRM-15s....both sides can cheat Neke. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Hey it would be fun. :) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Lynx >> >> >> >>Tai-shu Kabuki-mono Yamaneko Jurai >> >> >> >>"Money , sex , remote controll , big brother is watching you...." >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Attachment Converted: C:\IDT\Drw01usr.mek >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> > >> > > >>> lynx:29 (Message lynx:29) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 23:30:08 -0500 To: Lynxcat , "Paul Sundling" cc: gamma@imperium.net, blackjackals@geocities.com, knockmor@transport.com , robertmilot@videotron.ca Status: N X-Sender: trajen@auburn.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19970617032411.00a8b2c4@pe.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: trajen Subject: Re: Re. : ENOUGH! No, its a mark of disinterest and general apathy towards the subject at hand. The information your bad grammar contains, on the other hand, is a mark of stupidity. At 08:24 PM 6/16/97 -0700, Lynxcat wrote: >Im partailly deslexic and was never taught to type; say what you will >about me , but dont nock my spelling\grammer\punctuation , its not a >mark of stupidity. > >Lynx > >At 11:07 PM 6/16/97 -0500, trajen wrote: >>Atleast spell right, Jesus. You complain like a child, act like a child, >>and much worse, spell like a child. Atleast make your whining pleasing to >>read. Please. >> >> >> >>At 08:03 PM 6/16/97 -0700, Lynxcat wrote: >>>And if you fine me that 10k it will only be the begining. >>> >>>That was a threat and you may take it as sutch. >>> >>>-- >>>Lynx >>>Tai-shu Kabuki-mono Yamaneko Jurai >>>"Money , sex , remote controll , big brother is watching you...." >>> >>>At 07:59 PM 6/16/97 -0700, Paul Sundling wrote: >>>>I'm glad you stopped. The 2 fines for 5000 will stand since you HAD read >>>>the letter where you were warned not to continue to accuse the high council >>>>of unfairness. I personally don't want to be involved in any disputes >>>>involving you lynxcat, not good for my heart condition. I would request >>>>that you NEVER EVER send me any more mail about disputes. *I* don't >>>>care and I certainly have better things to do with my time. All I asked >>>>you to do was stop it and warned you against continuing to attack the >>>>fairness of the council. YOu attack us even when we're not making the >>>>decision. I've had it with you. DO NOT MAIL ME ANYMORE AT ALL LYNXCAT. >>>>You have shown continual disrespect and you are a prime example of what >>>>we DON'T want in this league. You have damaged this league, delayed it >>>>and been a larger irritant than all the rest of the league combined. >>>>FORGET MY EMAIL ADDRESS. I'M BEGGING YOU. >>>> >>>> -=< Paul >=- >>>> >>>> >>>> said to me: >>>>------------------------- >>>>> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 19:42:39 -0700 >>>>> From: Lynxcat >>>>> Subject: Re: ENOUGH! >>>> >>>>> Yes I can agree with this , although I just sent 7 letters to the Council >>>>> before I got to this letter , so I appologize wholheartly; I hadnt read >>>>> this yet. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Lynx >>>>> Tai-shu Kabuki-mono Yamaneko Jurai >>>>> "Money , sex , remote controll , big brother is watching you...." >>>>> >>>>> At 08:05 PM 6/16/97 +0000, Khan Jackal wrote: >>>>> >ENOUGH! >>>>> > >>>>> >Paul and I have BOTH spoken on this matter. From here on out it is to be >>>>> >resolved BY THE RoE COMMISSION! Anymore mail sent directly to the >>>>> >Council regarding it, other than by the RoE themselves - WILL RESULT IN >>>>> >FINES! >>>>> > >>>>> >Damn it. Grow up you guys. ALL OF YOU. This is EXACTLY why the RoE was >>>>> >formed in the first place, so that the Council themselves only has to >>>>> >deal with things of this nature as a last ditch effort. READ THE >>>>> >FRIGGING NEWS PAGE, and maybe, just maybe, then you will see that >>>>> >bringing this to the Council was NOT what should have been done in the >>>>> >first place. Either start using proper channels or SUFFER THE >>>>> >CONSEQUENCES. I and Paul have BOTH been more than fair with BOTH groups >>>>> >involved here, and I for one, am NOT going to sit back and idly watch my >>>>> >mail box fill up with ANOTHER HJ/CBL dispute. This is childish, immature >>>>> >BS, and is neither fitting OR becoming from two GROUP LEADERS. You guys >>>>> >are BOTH damn good friends of mine, and I respect you a great deal, and >>>>> >I am sure that Paul does also. But PLEASE, for the love of god, the >>>>> >game, and the ladder itself - LEARN TO WORK TOGETHER. >>>>> > >>>>> >An irritated Zone Councilman named: >>>>> >Khan Jackal >>>>> >1st Khan, Clan Black Jackals >>>>> >XO MacWarrior 1st Assault Star >>>>> >Core Creator/Zone Councilman - tHe kILLINg zONe >>>>> > >>>>> >For a really grand time go to http://www.tkz.net, >>>>> >or you could just sit around in your underwear eating oreos>>>> >less fattening>. >>>>> > >>>>> >If you wanna kick butt and take names while capturing the universe and >>>>> >vanquishing >>>>> >all those unrighteous heathens that live in the Inner Sphere, then go >>>>> >to: >>>>> >http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Castle/2495...the home of the CBJ. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>> lynx:30 (Message lynx:30) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 20:24:11 -0700 To: trajen , "Paul Sundling" cc: gamma@imperium.net, blackjackals@geocities.com, knockmor@transport.com , robertmilot@videotron.ca Status: N X-Sender: lynxcat@pe.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Lynxcat Subject: Re: Re. : ENOUGH! Im partailly deslexic and was never taught to type; say what you will about me , but dont nock my spelling\grammer\punctuation , its not a mark of stupidity. Lynx At 11:07 PM 6/16/97 -0500, trajen wrote: >Atleast spell right, Jesus. You complain like a child, act like a child, >and much worse, spell like a child. Atleast make your whining pleasing to >read. Please. > > > >At 08:03 PM 6/16/97 -0700, Lynxcat wrote: >>And if you fine me that 10k it will only be the begining. >> >>That was a threat and you may take it as sutch. >> >>-- >>Lynx >>Tai-shu Kabuki-mono Yamaneko Jurai >>"Money , sex , remote controll , big brother is watching you...." >> >>At 07:59 PM 6/16/97 -0700, Paul Sundling wrote: >>>I'm glad you stopped. The 2 fines for 5000 will stand since you HAD read >>>the letter where you were warned not to continue to accuse the high council >>>of unfairness. I personally don't want to be involved in any disputes >>>involving you lynxcat, not good for my heart condition. I would request >>>that you NEVER EVER send me any more mail about disputes. *I* don't >>>care and I certainly have better things to do with my time. All I asked >>>you to do was stop it and warned you against continuing to attack the >>>fairness of the council. YOu attack us even when we're not making the >>>decision. I've had it with you. DO NOT MAIL ME ANYMORE AT ALL LYNXCAT. >>>You have shown continual disrespect and you are a prime example of what >>>we DON'T want in this league. You have damaged this league, delayed it >>>and been a larger irritant than all the rest of the league combined. >>>FORGET MY EMAIL ADDRESS. I'M BEGGING YOU. >>> >>> -=< Paul >=- >>> >>> >>> said to me: >>>------------------------- >>>> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 19:42:39 -0700 >>>> From: Lynxcat >>>> Subject: Re: ENOUGH! >>> >>>> Yes I can agree with this , although I just sent 7 letters to the Council >>>> before I got to this letter , so I appologize wholheartly; I hadnt read >>>> this yet. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Lynx >>>> Tai-shu Kabuki-mono Yamaneko Jurai >>>> "Money , sex , remote controll , big brother is watching you...." >>>> >>>> At 08:05 PM 6/16/97 +0000, Khan Jackal wrote: >>>> >ENOUGH! >>>> > >>>> >Paul and I have BOTH spoken on this matter. From here on out it is to be >>>> >resolved BY THE RoE COMMISSION! Anymore mail sent directly to the >>>> >Council regarding it, other than by the RoE themselves - WILL RESULT IN >>>> >FINES! >>>> > >>>> >Damn it. Grow up you guys. ALL OF YOU. This is EXACTLY why the RoE was >>>> >formed in the first place, so that the Council themselves only has to >>>> >deal with things of this nature as a last ditch effort. READ THE >>>> >FRIGGING NEWS PAGE, and maybe, just maybe, then you will see that >>>> >bringing this to the Council was NOT what should have been done in the >>>> >first place. Either start using proper channels or SUFFER THE >>>> >CONSEQUENCES. I and Paul have BOTH been more than fair with BOTH groups >>>> >involved here, and I for one, am NOT going to sit back and idly watch my >>>> >mail box fill up with ANOTHER HJ/CBL dispute. This is childish, immature >>>> >BS, and is neither fitting OR becoming from two GROUP LEADERS. You guys >>>> >are BOTH damn good friends of mine, and I respect you a great deal, and >>>> >I am sure that Paul does also. But PLEASE, for the love of god, the >>>> >game, and the ladder itself - LEARN TO WORK TOGETHER. >>>> > >>>> >An irritated Zone Councilman named: >>>> >Khan Jackal >>>> >1st Khan, Clan Black Jackals >>>> >XO MacWarrior 1st Assault Star >>>> >Core Creator/Zone Councilman - tHe kILLINg zONe >>>> > >>>> >For a really grand time go to http://www.tkz.net, >>>> >or you could just sit around in your underwear eating oreos>>> >less fattening>. >>>> > >>>> >If you wanna kick butt and take names while capturing the universe and >>>> >vanquishing >>>> >all those unrighteous heathens that live in the Inner Sphere, then go >>>> >to: >>>> >http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Castle/2495...the home of the CBJ. >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>> lynx:31 (Message lynx:31) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 20:36:15 -0700 To: trajen , "Paul Sundling" cc: gamma@imperium.net, blackjackals@geocities.com, knockmor@transport.com , robertmilot@videotron.ca Status: N X-Sender: lynxcat@pe.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Lynxcat Subject: Re: Re. : ENOUGH! Your right , if I really took the time I could write just perfectly spelled and punctued letters , but I only do that for one person in the world , so get off my ass. Lynx At 11:30 PM 6/16/97 -0500, trajen wrote: >No, its a mark of disinterest and general apathy towards the subject at >hand. The information your bad grammar contains, on the other hand, is a >mark of stupidity. > > >At 08:24 PM 6/16/97 -0700, Lynxcat wrote: >>Im partailly deslexic and was never taught to type; say what you will >>about me , but dont nock my spelling\grammer\punctuation , its not a >>mark of stupidity. >> >>Lynx >> >>At 11:07 PM 6/16/97 -0500, trajen wrote: >>>Atleast spell right, Jesus. You complain like a child, act like a child, >>>and much worse, spell like a child. Atleast make your whining pleasing to >>>read. Please. >>> >>> >>> >>>At 08:03 PM 6/16/97 -0700, Lynxcat wrote: >>>>And if you fine me that 10k it will only be the begining. >>>> >>>>That was a threat and you may take it as sutch. >>>> >>>>-- >>>>Lynx >>>>Tai-shu Kabuki-mono Yamaneko Jurai >>>>"Money , sex , remote controll , big brother is watching you...." >>>> >>>>At 07:59 PM 6/16/97 -0700, Paul Sundling wrote: >>>>>I'm glad you stopped. The 2 fines for 5000 will stand since you HAD read >>>>>the letter where you were warned not to continue to accuse the high >council >>>>>of unfairness. I personally don't want to be involved in any disputes >>>>>involving you lynxcat, not good for my heart condition. I would request >>>>>that you NEVER EVER send me any more mail about disputes. *I* don't >>>>>care and I certainly have better things to do with my time. All I asked >>>>>you to do was stop it and warned you against continuing to attack the >>>>>fairness of the council. YOu attack us even when we're not making the >>>>>decision. I've had it with you. DO NOT MAIL ME ANYMORE AT ALL LYNXCAT. >>>>>You have shown continual disrespect and you are a prime example of what >>>>>we DON'T want in this league. You have damaged this league, delayed it >>>>>and been a larger irritant than all the rest of the league combined. >>>>>FORGET MY EMAIL ADDRESS. I'M BEGGING YOU. >>>>> >>>>> -=< Paul >=- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> said to me: >>>>>------------------------- >>>>>> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 19:42:39 -0700 >>>>>> From: Lynxcat >>>>>> Subject: Re: ENOUGH! >>>>> >>>>>> Yes I can agree with this , although I just sent 7 letters to the >Council >>>>>> before I got to this letter , so I appologize wholheartly; I hadnt read >>>>>> this yet. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Lynx >>>>>> Tai-shu Kabuki-mono Yamaneko Jurai >>>>>> "Money , sex , remote controll , big brother is watching you...." >>>>>> >>>>>> At 08:05 PM 6/16/97 +0000, Khan Jackal wrote: >>>>>> >ENOUGH! >>>>>> > >>>>>> >Paul and I have BOTH spoken on this matter. From here on out it is >to be >>>>>> >resolved BY THE RoE COMMISSION! Anymore mail sent directly to the >>>>>> >Council regarding it, other than by the RoE themselves - WILL >RESULT IN >>>>>> >FINES! >>>>>> > >>>>>> >Damn it. Grow up you guys. ALL OF YOU. This is EXACTLY why the RoE was >>>>>> >formed in the first place, so that the Council themselves only has to >>>>>> >deal with things of this nature as a last ditch effort. READ THE >>>>>> >FRIGGING NEWS PAGE, and maybe, just maybe, then you will see that >>>>>> >bringing this to the Council was NOT what should have been done in the >>>>>> >first place. Either start using proper channels or SUFFER THE >>>>>> >CONSEQUENCES. I and Paul have BOTH been more than fair with BOTH groups >>>>>> >involved here, and I for one, am NOT going to sit back and idly >watch my >>>>>> >mail box fill up with ANOTHER HJ/CBL dispute. This is childish, >immature >>>>>> >BS, and is neither fitting OR becoming from two GROUP LEADERS. You guys >>>>>> >are BOTH damn good friends of mine, and I respect you a great deal, and >>>>>> >I am sure that Paul does also. But PLEASE, for the love of god, the >>>>>> >game, and the ladder itself - LEARN TO WORK TOGETHER. >>>>>> > >>>>>> >An irritated Zone Councilman named: >>>>>> >Khan Jackal >>>>>> >1st Khan, Clan Black Jackals >>>>>> >XO MacWarrior 1st Assault Star >>>>>> >Core Creator/Zone Councilman - tHe kILLINg zONe >>>>>> > >>>>>> >For a really grand time go to http://www.tkz.net, >>>>>> >or you could just sit around in your underwear eating oreos>>>>> >less fattening>. >>>>>> > >>>>>> >If you wanna kick butt and take names while capturing the universe and >>>>>> >vanquishing >>>>>> >all those unrighteous heathens that live in the Inner Sphere, then go >>>>>> >to: >>>>>> >http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Castle/2495...the home of the CBJ. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>> lynx:32 (Message lynx:32) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 01:41:26 -0700 To: Lynxcat , "Paul Sundling" , ktank@ili.net, dnyberg@acmenet.com, trajen@auburn.net, gamma@imperium.net, blackjackals@geocities.com, robertmilot@videotron.ca Status: N X-Sender: knockmor@transport.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19970617023550.0075ec9c@pe.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Jon Linscheid Subject: Re: lynxcat a bit more than vocal hey lynx, get off it. You are wearing out the platform. Why in the hell do you always have a comment for everything? If you want to direct a message at Paul, by all means do it and leave the rest of us out of it. If Paul decides to fine your house he has more than enough right to do so. I would have long ago. I have no idea what you are trying to prove by bombarding us with messages. As of now, You and only you have lost your voice with me. Any future messages I see from you that are not responces to planetary attacks will be ignored. You may invade my mailbox, but I have the power of the delete key. I have heard wolf cried one too many times. Shut up and get a life. This is only a game. Oh, by the way. no need to reply. I have you on my filter. Knockmore At 07:35 PM 6/16/97 -0700, Lynxcat wrote: >Ohh I just love it when my name is in the header! I feal so loved! :) > >At 10:51 AM 6/16/97 -0700, Paul Sundling wrote: >>OK, >> >>now when I said 60% of mail regarding disputes came from lynxcat, that's >>actually LOW. I've gotten 94 messages from lynxcat since 6/3, so that's >>lot more than all other disputes for the ENTIRE league. I feel this is >>something of a problem and feel that if someone a bit more level headed >>handled things for house jurai that it would alleviate a lot of this mail. >>If anyone wants to verify that I have received 94 messages, just let me >>know and I will forward all of them to you. That's an average of over 7 >>messages a day, most of them complaints. The resulting slowdown in the >>league is over a week for work on the automation that I had to put off >>because anything involving lynxcat seems to escalate. > >Oh I belive you. My mother calls me a hurricane. > >But Paul....maybe instead of getting mad at me for complaining , maybe you >would like to consider....why am I complainig? You seem to be under the beleif >that I have nothing better to do. > >Have you ever considered that CBL cheating and illeagel actions are so bad >that they push me to these leavels of complaining? > >>Jackal and I both saw a lot of potential with lynxcat and he was an important >>part of the creation of this ladder. He is dependable and a very hard worker. >>While there a number of great qualities he has, the approach he has taken >>has been impolite, often insulting and accusatory. Things seem to >>escalate and I'm sure that lynxcat must paint a picture of the council and >>its dealings that is non-comlimentary and inconsistent with the perspective >>of the others involved. Also his accusations of lying, cheating, etc. seem >>to be endless and instead of working out any difficulties feels obligated >>to name-calling and filling our mailboxed up with his complaints. > >Maybe you should considering investgating my accusations. > >>So I humbly ask House Jurai as a personal favor to have someone other than >>lynxcat handle the disputes from here on out and to use someone else as >>liason between both other groups and the zone council. Intimidation is >>a skill lynxcat posseses, but diplomacy is not. I'm still impressed >>that he was able to scare FUBAR bear into giving jurai 300K points and >>I still get a chuckle, but other than a newbie, don't expect a repeat. >>So why not use Bambi or Nexx for intergroup/council stuff. I'm sure your >>opponents will also be more likely to settle things if you are nice and >>polite. Save brutality for the battlefield. > >Im a nice person when Im not pissed Paul , and right now it takes every fiber >of controll in my being not to tell you off and do something extreamly shitty >to the CBL....yet I dont. > >Im mad Paul; after over 90 letters and 20 odd CBL disputes the closest thing >youve done to sideing with HJ on a matter is fine both HJ and CBL. You let them >continue being neanderthals....Im serrous Paul , CBL is the scum of TKZ , the >only way they would be less is if the NOC were resurected on the TKZ. > >Im not screaming into the night here; I have a shitload of complaints. > >Paul....maybe Id shutup and quit complaining if you displined CBL. > >Lynx > >>> lynx:33 (Message lynx:33) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 01:22:15 -0700 To: "Paul Sundling" , David Fong cc: trajen@auburn.net, gamma@imperium.net, blackjackals@geocities.com, robertmilot@videotron.ca, guns4all@erols.com, tukayyid@bluegrass.net, ktank@ili.net, dnyberg@acmenet.com Status: N X-Sender: knockmor@transport.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) In-Reply-To: <9706161652.AA17694@julia.math.ucla.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Jon Linscheid Subject: Re: Re. : Illeagel Mech Designs (Proof Attached) Actually I am really getting tired of lynxcat. the world does not revolve around him and obviously he feels it does. Easy story. Remember the boy that cried wolf? Well lynxcat is nearing that point. A am afraid that when a real issue comes up his house will suffer because no one will listen. I don't know what to do about him except ignor him. and tell his opponents to do the same. Knockmore At 09:52 AM 6/16/97 -0700, Paul Sundling wrote: >Great! Another full blown dispute. > > -=< Paul >=- > > > said to me: >------------------------- >> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 07:07:24 -0400 (EDT) >> From: David Fong >> Subject: Re: Illeagel Mech Designs (Proof Attached) > >> Lynx, I did not expect you to sink to this low of making up things out of >> thin air. I know you just lost over 37K worth of points in exchange for >> less than 7K of CBL and it hurts, but this is just out right nonsense. >> >> Paul, none of CBL pilots used that mech. >> >> Nekekami >> >> At 07:41 PM 6/15/97 -0700, you wrote: >> >Well Im really begining to wonder why cant CBL stand up and fight the HJ >> fairly. >> > >> >Ok people; attached is a very illeagel Dire Wolf that CBL used in a *war* >> >yesterday >> >against the HJ , it contains 3 LRM-20s , an ammount of missle that the rulls >> >clearly >> >forbid....unless of course Paul has some more shadow rulls. >> > >> >Im not exspecting the Council to act , in fact my officers have a taken a >> >bet that >> >we'll actually get for some make-do reason a fine for bringing it to the >> >Council. >> > >> >All I can say is this; if the Council lets CBL get away with 3 LRM-20s , I >> think >> >Ill refit HJ mechs to mount 8 LRM-15s....both sides can cheat Neke. >> > >> >Hey it would be fun. :) >> > >> >Lynx >> >Tai-shu Kabuki-mono Yamaneko Jurai >> >"Money , sex , remote controll , big brother is watching you...." >> > >> >Attachment Converted: C:\IDT\Drw01usr.mek >> > >> > >>> lynx:34 (Message lynx:34) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 21:16:45 -0700 Status: N Apparently-To: From: "Paul Sundling" Subject: delays due to lynxcat ------- Blind-Carbon-Copy To: killzone@stomped.com Subject: delays due to lynxcat Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 21:16:45 -0700 From: "Paul Sundling" Well over 75% of mail received from all groups regarding disputes has emanated from lynxcat of House Jurai. In the last 13 days I have received 121 letters from him. If anyone thinks I am exaggerating by even one letter, then ask and I will send you all 121 messages. In these messages he has threatened me, attacked me for being unfair and biased. His continual attacks have had an accumlated effect of delaying the progress of this ladder by over one week. He was told he would be fined if he attacked the fairness of the council again and in his reply to that very letter attacked the fairness of the counil!! We finally reached an agreement though. In return for NEVER EVER mailing me at my personal account for any reason, including a reply to official mails and always